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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain Date: Sun, 4 May 2025 16:38:58 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vv81mi$29e9f$1@dont-email.me> References: <vuqgef$1of93$1@dont-email.me> <vuqogf$1vlqj$1@dont-email.me> <vuqsdb$2497h$1@dont-email.me> <vusgmj$3lvur$2@dont-email.me> <1rbln2a.1frrgzg19gl8fgN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vuvter$2p1lu$1@dont-email.me> <5tvcelxu6g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv2641$r3ti$2@dont-email.me> <aqpfelxr9m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv3jdv$23k6v$2@dont-email.me> <o8fhelxmth.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv5kqu$1a2p$1@dont-email.me> <v7gielxndi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv64hv$gau7$1@dont-email.me> <q0pielxgld.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv785q$1hkgn$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 May 2025 17:38:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1fa705ce4930303582e9abbeafd0d783"; logging-data="2406703"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+nh9G/vxjuY1IiIIFrXS//skIC9bt59/wCZN7cibB1w==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GTRhYii9GZQZie+MVHY+SOqh6b0= In-Reply-To: <vv785q$1hkgn$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3182 On 04/05/2025 09:23, Jeroen Belleman wrote: > On 5/4/25 02:29, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-05-04 00:15, Don Y wrote: >>> On 5/3/2025 2:59 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> But, you can set up smaller PV installations (hundreds of panels) >>>>> on commercial buildings, "cover" parking areas, etc. You don't >>>>> get the same economies of scale as you would with 1,000 panels >>>>> but 100+ panels on every city block makes a lot of power available >>>>> where it is used. >>>> >>>> There is a regulation that says that every building will have to >>>> install some solar panels. I don't know when is the limit. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I suspect the pain hasn't been great enough to force them to >>>>> take their medicine? >>>> >>>> Sorry, I don't understand this sentence. :-? >>> >>> Their "poor planning/engineering" hasn't COST them sufficiently for them >>> to actually DO something about the problem! Perhaps now, with an entire >>> nation *pissed*, they will decide they can't just wave their hands >>> at the problem... >> >> Too early. It will be months before we know what actually happened, >> and this before anybody can think what can be done about it. >> > > I have this suspicion that power engineers know very well what > happened. Nobody wants to be the person to tell, because anyone > who does will be the scapegoat. Spain's politicians were very > clear: They are looking for someone to punish. +1 When from an engineering point of view it looks like it is the politicians who should be flagellated for this major SNAFU. -- Martin Brown