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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 17:39:55 +1000
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On 5/05/2025 12:50 pm, Don Y wrote:
> On 5/4/2025 1:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-05-04 22:20, Don Y wrote:
>>> On 5/4/2025 5:34 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> They have it because they need them more. They run isolated, they 
>>>> can not rely on others to smooth their loads. As a result, some 
>>>> islands have successfully run for days on solar/wind only.
>>>
>>> Is this just "taken in stride"?  Or, are residents alerted to special
>>> "please be extra conservative in your energy use TODAY" requests?
>>>
>>> How does storage capacity correlate with "off hours" demand?
>>
>> They take it on stride.
>> I don't live there, nor have visited. I think that the island that 
>> stayed for a month on solar/wind doesn't have heavy industries, not by 
>> far.
> 
> So, they did nothing "special" to avoid running out of power for that
> time?  I.e., they were CONFIDENT in their available surplus (day
> AND night) to stick with "life as usual"?

The storage, and the generating capacity, will have been sized with this 
in mind.

It means installing more than the bare minimum in wind turbines and 
solar panels, but that's cheaper than shipping in loads of diesel fuel, 
and building tanks big enough to hold enough diesel to tide you over a 
bad couple of days.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney