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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Halting Problem: What Constitutes Pathological Input Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 00:57:39 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vvc8cj$2a4cs$2@dont-email.me> References: <GE4SP.47558$VBab.42930@fx08.ams4> <vvamqc$o6v5$4@dont-email.me> <vvan7q$o4v0$1@dont-email.me> <ts5SP.113145$_Npd.41800@fx01.ams4> <vvat0g$vtiu$1@dont-email.me> <vvatf3$o4v0$3@dont-email.me> <vvaut0$vtiu$4@dont-email.me> <vvav6o$o4v0$4@dont-email.me> <vvb329$15u5b$1@dont-email.me> <vvb37g$1451r$1@dont-email.me> <vvb43f$15u5b$4@dont-email.me> <vvb4ok$o4v0$9@dont-email.me> <vvb52g$15u5b$6@dont-email.me> <vvb5ca$o4v0$10@dont-email.me> <vvb5vp$15u5b$7@dont-email.me> <vvb675$o4v0$11@dont-email.me> <vvb9d7$1av94$3@dont-email.me> <vvbani$1b6l1$1@dont-email.me> <vvbb82$1a9jr$5@dont-email.me> <vvbcef$1b6l1$3@dont-email.me> <vvbe4m$1av94$9@dont-email.me> <vvbefp$1b6l1$7@dont-email.me> <vvbhnh$1ijna$2@dont-email.me> <vvc81f$29pp8$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 06 May 2025 07:57:39 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4d3877b25e07ae675aebb853b858fd37"; logging-data="2429340"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19r4n1sUjQ/ovbxDxb3Lh/1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CnLvUYgZhwNgG2tsAOLzB19YcO8= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vvc81f$29pp8$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250506-0, 5/5/2025), Outbound message On 5/6/2025 12:51 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 06/05/2025 00:30, olcott wrote: >> There are different ways of framing the problem. >> The only one that matters is that HHH(DD) does >> correctly determine that DD never halts. > > That may be the only one that matters to you. It refutes ALL of the conventional HP proofs. > The one that matters to > computer scientists, though, is the one that shows why some questions > are undecidable. > Because they are are framed incorrectly. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer