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From: Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
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Subject: Re: May the 5th
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 23:31:56 +1000
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On 7/05/2025 11:34 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
> On 5/6/2025 07:44, The Last Doctor wrote:
>> On 06/05/2025 13:26, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 6/05/2025 9:38 pm, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2025 06:21, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>> On 6/05/2025 12:31 pm, Hornplayer9599 wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 08:14, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/05/2025 10:56 pm, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2025 21:54, Woozy Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 5/4 is Dave Brubeck Day!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hmm!! Dave Brubeck ..... he's O.K.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why is the 5th of April Dave Brubeck Day??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Music in 5/4 time maybe?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's quicker than 4/4 isn't it?? Is 5/4 a Jazz thing??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not tempo related...just 5 beats per measure instead of 4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> How can playing five notes/beats in a given time period,
>>>>> rather than four, NOT be a change in Tempo??
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or are you suggesting Jazz could be 4/4 or 5/4 or ....??
>>>> 
>>>> Jazz can be 5/4, or 4/4, or 3/4, or 2/2, or 6/8 (or any other 
>>>> meter)...just like any other style of music.
>>>> 
>>>> The time signature (meter) tells you two things: the top number
>>>>  tells you how many beats in one measure (bar), the bottom
>>>> number tells you what kind of note is worth one beat.  When the
>>>> bottom note is a 4, that tells you that the quarter note
>>>> (quill) is worth one beat.  So 5/4 tells you that there are
>>>> five beats per measure, and the quarter note (quill) is worth
>>>> one beat.  The time signature does not tell you how fast or
>>>> slow to go.
>>>> 
>>>> The tempo tells you how fast or slow the beat is going.  The
>>>> tempo for the Sousa march, "The Stars and Stripes Forever" is
>>>> 120 beats per measure...two beats per second; the time
>>>> signature is 2/2. "Advance, Australia Fair" is a little slower
>>>> than that, and the time signature is 4/4.
>>>> 
>>> Way above my knowledge, Hornplayer.
>>> 
>>> I thought, when you looked at a blank sheet of music, all the 
>>> sections marked out represented a fixed time period and the
>>> number of notes between each two lines were to be played with-in
>>> that fixed time-period.
>> 
>> It's more complicated than that as above- sometimes much more. But
>> 5/4 (American notation) id Dave Brubeck day because possibly his
>> most famously known and most often played piece, "Take Five," is in
>> 5/4 time.
>> 
>> But such shenanigans are not limited to Jazz. Most of Genesis'
>> "Dance on a Volcano" (from the "Trick of the Tail" album) is in 7/8
>> time. And "Turn it On Again" is in 13/8 - as is the Stranglers'
>> "Golden Brown".
> 
> And Pink Floyd's "Money" is in 7/4.
> 
'Floyd' .... Now you're talking!! ;-P Really!!
-- 
Daniel70