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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: repairs and obsolescence ish Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 11:46:50 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vvg2pq$146kn$2@dont-email.me> References: <m7rpgeFsq0kU1@mid.individual.net> <vvbdfg$1cl75$4@dont-email.me> <m7vn46FhgomU1@mid.individual.net> <q9bl1klemcrnidgfs2g6m6r4e1tmpqvv54@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 18:46:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3734c09d721a311b419ab77c25b41fa9"; logging-data="1186455"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Ph/LbRa9MojQ7zb9vDHWR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:p1dNBms/3zWkU6bjR0pTTsIrp+o= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <q9bl1klemcrnidgfs2g6m6r4e1tmpqvv54@4ax.com> Bytes: 2945 On 5/7/2025 11:38 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On 7 May 2025 00:17:10 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: > >> Rather depends on the how and the why, I believe has been a push back by >> consumers for example with car dashboards in that while screens and so on >> are fun, they’d like some buttons still please and so on. > > There is hope for push buttons, in the name of safety. > > "Rejoice! Carmakers Are Embracing Physical Buttons Again > Amazingly, reaction times using screens while driving are worse than > being drunk or high - no wonder 90 percent of drivers hate using > touchscreens in cars. Finally the auto industry is coming to its > senses." > <https://www.wired.com/story/why-car-brands-are-finally-switching-back-to-buttons/> > "Automakers that nest key controls deep in touchscreen menus forcing > motorists to drive eyes-down rather than concentrate on the road ahead > may have their non-US safety ratings clipped next year." > > Sorry, but you'll need a Wired Magazine subscription to read the > entire article. If you don't want a subscription, you might find the > reader comments interesting. > > In my never humble opinion, buttons, touch screens, haptic feedback, > voice control, gestures, sign language and AI all have their good and > bad points. The trick is to attach numbers (fatality rate, accident > rate, cost, fashion, etc) to the various schemes and settle on the > least disgusting and most tolerable method. > No electronics works for me. I have owned cars with a 110v type wall switch on the dash and a starter button next to it. From what I have seen I could not possibly drive a 2025 model auto. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971