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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 13:31:16 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vvg8tk$15e69$4@dont-email.me> References: <vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me> <b47c9e70d415c1e5e469aaab846f0bd05e4bcc51@i2pn2.org> <vvall0$o6v5$1@dont-email.me> <vvc33h$25atc$1@dont-email.me> <vvcgja$1voc$1@news.muc.de> <vvd6pf$34l9k$1@dont-email.me> <vvdads$13pc$1@news.muc.de> <vvdcld$3arjo$1@dont-email.me> <vvg6r9$15e69$1@dont-email.me> <vvg7uu$158tp$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 20:31:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ee5137430f56269cd3e6381ddf24cf46"; logging-data="1226953"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hd9YUfKvl4Jfka0aLUS9N" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CLIc4131VFmCoM3ROHCMuFZcFXg= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vvg7uu$158tp$4@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250507-4, 5/7/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2552 On 5/7/2025 1:14 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 07/05/2025 18:55, olcott wrote: >> When THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION then proof by contradiction fails. >> How do you not get that? > > I do. You must be talking about the Olcott Problem again, because the > contradiction is inherent in the Halting Problem. > Not when its terrible mistake is corrected. > It starts with the assumption that a universal halt decider can be > written, and then shows that such a decider can be used to devise a > program that the 'universal' decider can't decide --- a contradiction. > > But you already know all this. > I already know that the contradictory part of the counter-example input has always been unreachable code. Thus PROOF BY CONTRADICTION FAILS because there never was any actual contradiction. It has been a false assumption that there has been a contradiction for 90 years. If you have no idea what unreachable code is you won't get this. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer