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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Functions computed by Turing Machines MUST apply finite string transformations to inputs --- MT Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 14:59:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vvge2n$15e69$10@dont-email.me> References: <TuuNP.2706011$nb1.2053729@fx01.ams4> <vv0352$2ur4q$1@dont-email.me> <vv0kpi$3djh5$1@dont-email.me> <vv13ro$3r3ei$1@dont-email.me> <vv160a$3smj7$1@dont-email.me> <vv18s7$3uer0$1@dont-email.me> <vv1b03$4a4k$2@dont-email.me> <vv1bav$3ra6l$7@dont-email.me> <vv1frt$97hp$1@dont-email.me> <vv1gfu$3ra6l$8@dont-email.me> <vv1js4$d4ik$1@dont-email.me> <-GOdnZvgEPn-84j1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vv5e46$3rtqo$1@dont-email.me> <2qydnbbWA6CAGIv1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <87frhjamvt.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <vv93tq$383jd$1@dont-email.me> <d3d98f966d50e250c233a6e883a4947c885bd99f@i2pn2.org> <vvbsjf$1us1f$5@dont-email.me> <313c6e5a3816ff483563120b589b22d1bc190c2f@i2pn2.org> <vvdi2p$3cbpq$7@dont-email.me> <vvdmam$3huo6$2@dont-email.me> <vvdn4i$3k2gc$2@dont-email.me> <vvfbt6$ubvt$2@dont-email.me> <vvfi2a$10b0m$4@dont-email.me> <vvfsor$130t3$2@dont-email.me> <6c627041e7df24bb64442ad7e0ee03db6a74aab6@i2pn2.org> <vvg9sm$15e69$6@dont-email.me> <vvgao0$158tp$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 21:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ee5137430f56269cd3e6381ddf24cf46"; logging-data="1226953"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tU3eSeILDfGwevnNLHktR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DxNxrbPC5IXM0mUxPC/O4PzXdQo= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250507-4, 5/7/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vvgao0$158tp$7@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 5/7/2025 2:02 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 07/05/2025 19:47, olcott wrote: > > <snip> > >> HHH did not abort its input. That is the ONLY way that >> simulating halt deciders can possibly work. > > Another only is that simulating halt deciders (like code-parsing halt > deciders) can only possibly work if they don't claim to be universal. > That is why I switched to "termination analyzer" as long as it correctly determines the halt status on one single input that has no inputs then it is correct. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer