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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 18:09:16 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vvgp6s$1a47o$3@dont-email.me> References: <vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me> <b47c9e70d415c1e5e469aaab846f0bd05e4bcc51@i2pn2.org> <vvall0$o6v5$1@dont-email.me> <vvc33h$25atc$1@dont-email.me> <vvcgja$1voc$1@news.muc.de> <vvd6pf$34l9k$1@dont-email.me> <vvdads$13pc$1@news.muc.de> <vvdcld$3arjo$1@dont-email.me> <vvg6r9$15e69$1@dont-email.me> <vvg7uu$158tp$4@dont-email.me> <vvg8tk$15e69$4@dont-email.me> <vvgai8$158tp$6@dont-email.me> <vvgcme$15e69$9@dont-email.me> <vvgjdo$18i6e$2@dont-email.me> <vvgkao$18q46$1@dont-email.me> <vvgknf$18i5r$1@dont-email.me> <vvgl47$18q46$4@dont-email.me> <vvgm45$18i6e$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 08 May 2025 01:09:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f36da193996cadd52a214445b52881fc"; logging-data="1380600"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/OosOEdu4bH3AtPG2Jx8kF" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JJsDxeItSi2y0lEghKYYXboYN00= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250507-4, 5/7/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vvgm45$18i6e$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2840 On 5/7/2025 5:16 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 07/05/2025 22:59, olcott wrote: >> On 5/7/2025 4:52 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> On 07/05/2025 22:46, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/7/2025 4:30 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>>> If the simulation can't reach code that the directly executed >>>>> program reaches, then it's not a faithful simulation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If is was true that it is not a faithful simulation >>>> then you would be able to show exactly what sequence >>>> of instructions would be a faithful simulation. >>> >>> If it were false, you'd be able to chop out the unreachable code >>> without any adverse effects. Can you? >>> >>> <snip> >>> >> >> I already know the answer. > > Then you already know why your simulation code fails to simulate > correctly... When I say correctly I mean according to the rules of the x86 language. When you say "correctly" you mean break the rules of the x86 language to match a misconception. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer