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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 20:15:34 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vvgt36$1auqp$2@dont-email.me> References: <vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me> <b47c9e70d415c1e5e469aaab846f0bd05e4bcc51@i2pn2.org> <vvall0$o6v5$1@dont-email.me> <vvc33h$25atc$1@dont-email.me> <vvcgja$1voc$1@news.muc.de> <vvd6pf$34l9k$1@dont-email.me> <vvdads$13pc$1@news.muc.de> <vvdcld$3arjo$1@dont-email.me> <vvg6r9$15e69$1@dont-email.me> <vvg7uu$158tp$4@dont-email.me> <vvg8tk$15e69$4@dont-email.me> <vvgai8$158tp$6@dont-email.me> <vvgcme$15e69$9@dont-email.me> <vvgjdo$18i6e$2@dont-email.me> <vvgkao$18q46$1@dont-email.me> <vvgkd7$15i5e$23@dont-email.me> <vvgkum$18q46$3@dont-email.me> <vvgleo$15i5e$24@dont-email.me> <vvgov4$1a47o$2@dont-email.me> <vvgp8b$15i5e$25@dont-email.me> <vvgpk6$1a47o$4@dont-email.me> <vvgpo7$15i5e$26@dont-email.me> <vvgq6o$1acph$1@dont-email.me> <vvgqgl$15i5e$27@dont-email.me> <vvgr22$1ag3a$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 08 May 2025 02:15:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a565b5a0e22116f8f680253905402a9a"; logging-data="1407833"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19sID5S2l8Mjch+3yMWvEy7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ne6xvnvVxs0NojwiutKsBopKiqA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vvgr22$1ag3a$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2798 On 5/7/2025 7:40 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/7/2025 6:31 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 5/7/2025 7:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> When N instructions of DD are emulated by HHH >>> according to the rules of the x86 language then >> >> The subject was "DD emulated by HHH", not "N instructions of DD >> emulated by HHH". >> >> Changing the subject is the dishonest dodge of the strawman deception. > > > That you and Richard construe anything less than an > infinite number of steps of DD emulated by HHH > (according to the rules of the x86 language) > as an incorrect emulation IS MORONICALLY STUPID. > The fixed immutable code of HHH simulates a fixed number X of instructions of DD, the last of which was simulated incorrectly. Any number other than X is not what HHH simulates and is therefore irrelevant to HHH. UTM simulates X+Y instruction of DD correctly and reaches a final state.