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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for
 unknowns and unknowable
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 19:19:57 -0500
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On 5/7/2025 7:15 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 5/7/2025 7:40 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/7/2025 6:31 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 5/7/2025 7:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When N instructions of DD are emulated by HHH
>>>> according to the rules of the x86 language then
>>>
>>> The subject was "DD emulated by HHH", not "N instructions of DD 
>>> emulated by HHH".
>>>
>>> Changing the subject is the dishonest dodge of the strawman deception.
>>
>>
>> That you and Richard construe anything less than an
>> infinite number of steps of DD emulated by HHH
>> (according to the rules of the x86 language)
>> as an incorrect emulation IS MORONICALLY STUPID.
>>
> 
> The fixed immutable code of HHH simulates a fixed number X of 
> instructions of DD, the last of which was simulated incorrectly.  Any 
> number other than X is not what HHH simulates and is therefore 
> irrelevant to HHH.
> 
> UTM simulates X+Y instruction of DD correctly and reaches a final state.
> 

I will make it easier to understand.

void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}

Can DDD simulated by HHH reach its own "return" instruction?

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