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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for
unknowns and unknowable
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 00:22:08 -0500
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On 5/7/2025 11:09 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 08/05/2025 02:20, olcott wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Does there exist an HHH such that DDD emulated by
>> HHH according to the rules of the C programming language
>
> Let's take a look.
>
> The file is 1373 lines long, but don't worry, because I plan to stop at
> HHH's first departure from the rules of the C programming language (or
> at least the first departure I spot).
>
> Turn in your songbook if you will to:
>
> void CopyMachineCode(u8* source, u8** destination)
> {
> u32 size;
> for (size = 0; source[size] != 0xcc; size++)
> ;
> *destination = (u8*) Allocate(size);
> for (u32 N = 0; N < size; N++)
> {
> Output("source[N]: ", source[N]);
> *destination[N] = source[N];
> }
> ((u32*)*destination)[-1] = size;
> Output("CopyMachineCode destination[-1]: ", ((u32*)*destination)[-1]);
> Output("CopyMachineCode destination[-2]: ", ((u32*)*destination)[-2]);
> };
>
deprecated.
> I'll ignore the syntax error (a null statement at file scope is a rookie
> error).
>
> Instead, let's jump straight to this line:
>
> *destination = (u8*) Allocate(size);
>
> On line 79 of my copy of the code, we find:
>
> u32* Allocate(u32 size) { return 0; }
>
> In C, 0 is a null pointer constant, so Allocate returns a null pointer
> constant... which is fine as long as you don't try to deref it. So now
> *destination is NULL.
>
> We go on:
>
> for (u32 N = 0; N < size; N++)
> {
> Output("source[N]: ", source[N]);
> *destination[N] = source[N];
> }
>
> *destination[N] is our first big problem (we're ignoring syntax errors,
> remember). destination is a null pointer, so destination[N] derefs a
> null pointer.
>
> That's a fail. 0/10, D-, go away and write it again. And you /dare/ to
> impugn other people's C knowledge! Crack a book, for pity's sake.
>
If you can't even understand what is essentially
an infinite recursive relationship between two functions
except that one function can terminate the other then
you don't have a clue about the essence of my system.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer