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On 5/7/2025 8:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 07 May 2025 18:36:05 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed May 7 09:38:45 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>> On 7 May 2025 00:17:10 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rather depends on the how and the why, I believe has been a push back by
>>>> consumers for example with car dashboards in that while screens and so on
>>>> are fun, they?d like some buttons still please and so on.
>>>
>>> There is hope for push buttons, in the name of safety.
>>>
>>> "Rejoice! Carmakers Are Embracing Physical Buttons Again
>>> Amazingly, reaction times using screens while driving are worse than
>>> being drunk or high - no wonder 90 percent of drivers hate using
>>> touchscreens in cars. Finally the auto industry is coming to its
>>> senses."
>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/why-car-brands-are-finally-switching-back-to-buttons/>
>>> "Automakers that nest key controls deep in touchscreen menus forcing
>>> motorists to drive eyes-down rather than concentrate on the road ahead
>>> may have their non-US safety ratings clipped next year."
>>>
>>> Sorry, but you'll need a Wired Magazine subscription to read the
>>> entire article.  If you don't want a subscription, you might find the
>>> reader comments interesting.
>>>
>>> In my never humble opinion, buttons, touch screens, haptic feedback,
>>> voice control, gestures, sign language and AI all have their good and
>>> bad points.  The trick is to attach numbers (fatality rate, accident
>>> rate, cost, fashion, etc) to the various schemes and settle on the
>>> least disgusting and most tolerable method.
> 
>> Liebermann, how many touch screen cars do you have?
> 
> None.  Why do you ask?
> 
> Did any of these cars use manual push buttons and switches?
> <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
> "I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
> I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
> properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries"
> If these conventional controls were at least partly responsible for
> your 4 car wrecks, you should try driving a car with a touch screen to
> see if that improves your safety record.

AFAIK he's still driving a car with no touch screen.

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