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Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 10:09:37 -0400
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On 5/8/2025 9:56 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 08.05.2025 um 11:11 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>> On Thu, 8 May 2025 10:47:45 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 07.05.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>>>> On Wed, 07 May 2025 15:36:55 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 07 May 2025 12:43:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2025 10:38:32 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/7/2025 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2025 7:56 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2025 5:14 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/VKz5J5PPt-Q?si=ntPrbZPhCguTIuQM>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the
>>>>>>>>>> tariffs are effecting
>>>>>>>>>> US companies certainly small ones, as ever it’s a moving
>>>>>>>>>> target so may well
>>>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jared Fisher is the CEO of Escape Adventures, a company
>>>>>>>>> with several bike shops in Nevada that specializes in E-
>>>>>>>>> bike sales and rentals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this article he discusses his take on the tariffs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbusiness/i-m-a-
>>>>>>>>> republican-ceo-i-m- adding-a-tariff-tax-to-my-price-tags-
>>>>>>>>> so-customers-know-why-prices-are- rising/ar-AA1EjCTR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tagging the tariff surcharge seems like a smart business
>>>>>>>> move. It should reduce whining about profiteering, and help
>>>>>>>> put the blame where it belongs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. And let's continue that thought:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://hellocigarettes.com/2023/11/08/cigarette-prices-and- 
>>>>>>> taxes-by-state/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/factors-affecting- 
>>>>>>> gasoline-prices.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a possibility that the foriegn seller might have lowered the
>>>>>> price to absorb some of the tariff.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Almost impossible. Profit margins are  very small, and usually
>>>>> come from the number of items sold. Massive numbers = reasonable
>>>>> profit.
>>>>>     I very much doubt the Chinese will pay the taxes. They might
>>>>> INCREASE prices to compensate for less items sold. But the US is not a
>>>>> big market if you look at the Global scene, so the increase will be
>>>>> slight.
>>>>>
>>>>>     PS The American consumer will pay 100% of Trump's taxes. I
>>>>> mean tariffs. Aff ... same thing.
>>>>>     []'s
>>>>
>>>> Might be true, but it might be necessary as a way to get other
>>>> countries to bargan with their tariffs.
>>>
>>> For some reason, the EU offer of "zero tariffs on all manufacutred
>>> goods" has not led to further negotiation rounds yet.
>>
>> Why not on all goods?
> 
> <https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-offers-trump-removal-of-all-tariffs>
> 
> Agricultural goods is politically a very hot potato, especially for France.
> 

Also, this really has very little to do what what's in the best interest 
of the US or any other country. It's all about trumps ego. It's why he 
placed a 10% tariff on Australia, whom we have a trade _surplus_ with.

 From your link:
"The U.S. and EU came close to scrapping industrial tariffs a decade ago 
in their discussions of the TTIP — the Transatlantic Trade and 
Investment Partnership — that was ultimately scuppered by Trump in his 
first term."

Why did trump scrap that deal? Simple. It was negotiated by the Obama 
administration. Whether or not it was in the best interest of the US was 
irrelevant.

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