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Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism and Pro-Palestinian protestors, the gift to Donald
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 21:12:50 -0400
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On 2025-05-08 5:11 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> 2025-05-08 1:53 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> 
>>> Anti-Semitism is the gift that keeps on giving to Donald Trump!
> 
>>> They're baaaaaaack at Columbia University, this time occupying the
>>> library 5/7/2025, and protesting on the street in front of various
>>> campus buildings.
> 
>>> It's so odd that this doesn't happen in places outside the top 3 media
>>> markets.
> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpG2FTH0Ias
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAKoJ3WVI0I
> 
>>> As long as Trump can point to this, he'll continue to yank student visas
>>> of people who are NOT causing trouble while patting himself on the back
>>> claiming to crack down on anti-Semitism.
> 
>>> In the meantime, the protestors are effectively keeping Hamas in power
>>> which means there's no solution for the starving people of Gaza.
> 
>>> Keeping Hamas in power IS NOT a solution for Palestinians. Getting rid
>>> of them and freeing the hostages -- any that are still alive -- must be
>>> a prerequisite for actual peace.
> 
>>> Both Trump and the protestors are in the wrong.
> 
>> I don't understand: What would you like Trump to do? Leave the
>> protesters alone to spew their nonsense?
> 
> Trump has been cancelling student visas for people who are not
> criminals, or possibly because of traffic citations. There have been
> student visas cancelled for those without arrest records. It's a
> violation of due process.
> 
Okay, I'm with you so far.

>> Also, there's a comment I've seen under various videos that implies that
>> visa students who aren't causing trouble are not as innocuous as they
>> might seem: Radical islamists are the snakes in the grass; moderate
>> Muslims are the grass.
> 
> Ok. I cannot judge someone on his thoughts but his actions. If they
> committed crimes, they can be deported. Otherwise, let them finish their
> degrees without cancelling their student visas.
>
Fair enough. If they are on a student visa, as opposed to being an 
illegal immigrant, I'm okay with them getting due process. I'm not so 
sure I agree that they're eligible for due process if they're illegal in 
the first place.

>> I know that the Koran calls for all Muslims to bring all non-Muslims to
>> Allah. I *don't* know how seriously "moderate" Muslims still take that
>> demand of their religion. Do they all secretly believe it and work for
>> it or is some significant percentage of them happy to practice tolerance
>> to other religions (and the irreligious)? It's very hard to know what is
>> in someone's heart.
> 
> I agree. Nevertheless, unless they commit a public nuisance or an act of
> discrimination or deny someone free exercise of religion or commit a
> crime in doing so, leave them be.

Okay.

-- 
Rhino