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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism and Pro-Palestinian protestors, the gift to Donald Trump Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 02:24:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <vvjp0o$2b5h2$2@dont-email.me> References: <vvir28$209a9$1@dont-email.me> <vvj552$43va$4@dont-email.me> <vvj6lq$24lnc$1@dont-email.me> <vvjkqj$43va$6@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Fri, 09 May 2025 04:24:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="66d8466fdf57d437b413549d40f1d0fe"; logging-data="2463266"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19IeOzAlaCRD2TJvVlI6s2AuyYybUI7sqQ=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:rno4Y7rOo1LJta329y2TDEp+YnY= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Bytes: 2024 Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>. . . >Fair enough. If they are on a student visa, as opposed to being an >illegal immigrant, I'm okay with them getting due process. I'm not so >sure I agree that they're eligible for due process if they're illegal in >the first place. Probable cause and due process apply to everybody regardless of nationality. There are both criminal and civil violations of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. I assume criminal violations are heard in district court but I have no idea. Civil violations are heard in administrative courts. Even those in civil violation are entitled to due process in these administrative courts, such as it is. It's just that they may have returned illegally but may still be subject to deportation or removal orders from the last time they were caught. I have no idea what circumstances they get another hearing, but they aren't necessarily entitled to a hearing prior to another removal.