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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Wisconsin Judge Arrested for Obstruction for Helping Illegal Alien Escape ICE Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 11:40:00 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 201 Message-ID: <vvl7kh$2spme$1@dont-email.me> References: <ega91kl6v6ug28qk30i246kf8gtuvtfjh9@4ax.com> <vv2qf8$1e24b$2@dont-email.me> <tc7c1k1faiqp2lmgq0i8j1i7l7qnbspoto@4ax.com> <vv5d76$3o7t6$2@dont-email.me> <4u0f1kllir7rrlvdoi49n11vheg9s3knab@4ax.com> <vv80l7$289ah$2@dont-email.me> <vf8h1k5h5r14lt7h3qafa3d879lighitsn@4ax.com> <vval4i$o246$3@dont-email.me> <vdtj1kp1kjt8dohmr72h1jnf3rbbse1152@4ax.com> <vvdamg$38dvu$1@dont-email.me> <il5p1klorl2ed3phqsm4gtaupn37k1jdrd@4ax.com> <vvikio$1u31q$1@dont-email.me> <6dqr1kllu0a261uihcq8mcf2bc2q50k0cg@4ax.com> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 09 May 2025 17:40:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dc5e65cb2ea5ddc0c839ac46d1e9eda8"; logging-data="3040974"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+YvhXmlyxQeam3rGDq1JpFkOAgyWO+oQY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/aq5T9d0fPbAMi8rSRX4oq280T8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6dqr1kllu0a261uihcq8mcf2bc2q50k0cg@4ax.com> On 5/9/2025 7:42 AM, NoBody wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2025 12:02:30 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> > wrote: > >> On 5/8/2025 7:35 AM, NoBody wrote: >>> On Tue, 6 May 2025 11:43:11 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/6/2025 7:43 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 5 May 2025 11:22:55 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/5/2025 7:33 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 4 May 2025 11:21:11 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/4/2025 11:13 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 May 2025 11:37:09 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/2025 9:45 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 May 2025 12:04:55 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2025 7:20 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 1 May 2025 12:30:49 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/2025 7:25 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:37:37 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/30/2025 2:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2025 at 8:37:27 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/29/2025 11:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025 at 8:28:00 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/29/2025 11:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025 at 7:38:55 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/29/2025 10:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025 at 1:32:51 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/29/2025 7:35 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:46:04 -0400, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/2025 7:28 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actions always speak louder than words. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And both afford ample opportunity for (mis)interpretation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing in her actions can be interpreted as anything other than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating the law. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...except for failing to honor a bogus warrant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except, as it turns out, it wasn't bogus. It was an administrative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warrant, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is perfectly sufficient for arresting someone in a public place, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> courthouse. The judge was insisting on a judicial warrant, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary if making entry on private property to effect the arrest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consent of the owner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it turns out the judge was wrong, either because she's a state court >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't have knowledge and expertise on federal law, or, more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was just fucking around and delaying things to give the illegal time to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escape. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, that increases the chance she made an honest mistake. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An honest mistake wouldn't involve sticking her beak into things that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of her business in the first place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, this whole action was all about taking down a known "activist"... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it is about arresting a judge who broke the law by letting an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accused criminal loose from her court. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. 'Accused' is different from 'convicted', you see... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which has NOTHING to do with what I said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you said is that an *accused* criminal should be locked up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, he didn't. He said an accused criminal should not be helped to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escape >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforcement by a judge who is sworn to uphold the law. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As he was merely accused, any "shoulds" are all in one's biases. I.e., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's entitled to the same "help" as an innocent you would be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be entitled to a judge running cover for me while she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directs me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a back door to evade the cops, either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *If* she thought you were illegally pursued, it'd be her *duty*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, it wouldn't. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure it would, if not legally then ethically. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, ethical civil disobedience comes with a price. MLK and Gandhi both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognized that and did their time for breaking the law in pursuit of their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher cause. This judge should be prepared to do the same. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if she believed the warrant invalid then, civil or uncivil, her >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disobedience would be inadvertent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She doesn't get to rule on the validity of the warrant. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> She didn't issue a ruling. She ignored a supposedly invalid warrant. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So...how did make the termination it was invalid if she didn't issue a >>>>>>>>>>>>> ruling? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> She consulted her knowledge of the law. We all think we have some. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> She had no authority to do so and inserted her personal opinion to >>>>>>>>>>> disregard law. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We all have the "authority" to disregard an illegal order. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We do??? Do cite that claim for us won't you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> You just made a case for her removal from the bench. She makes >>>>>>>>>> up her >>>>>>>>>>>>> own law. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You make up your own conclusions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes I do and I don't break a law just because I disagree with it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's amazing what you will say to attempt to justify her illegal >>>>>>>>>>> behavior. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I will say is that she may have thought the warrant invalid. Any >>>>>>>>>> discussion proceeds from that point, and not from your presumption of >>>>>>>>>> premeditation and guilt. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What she thought was irrelevant since she had no jurisdiction in the >>>>>>>>> matter. She was properly arrested and should be removed from the >>>>>>>>> bench. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amazing you're still attempting to defend her illegal actions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What she thought may be relevant to any penalty. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Laughter. You just can't admit when you're wrong. >>>>>>> ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========