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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals Subject: Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 18:50:04 EDT Organization: Usenet Big-8 Management Board Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <vvm0ov$bei$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <vqq7tf$ehn$1@reader1.panix.com> <pNJ8HOw38ij24zhJ@violet.siamics.net> <vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me> <cWE75ymwml1TGIvr@violet.siamics.net> <jmnWF7WTsnTtTQ7m@violet.siamics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="2596"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Beta X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: FR US US X-Spam-DCC: : Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=big-8.org Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=panix.com Content-Language: en-CA X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmgehpwACgkQrPkQbuk9hdsKtgCg23YPjbQTD3A4bDhxWWdEJh54 JEwAnioNGr8q66amcZqB3fSv9qXYOHii =7PyH Bytes: 4269 Lines: 52 Dear Ivan, On 2025-05-09 09:45, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > I've created the following email addresses (currently aliased to > one of my mailboxes) for articles to comp.newprod, comp.simulation, > comp.std.announce and rec.photo.moderated, respectively: Thanks! Could you please also provide us with a moderator contact address for each of the four groups? (This would be used in the event that we, the ISC, or posters need to contact the moderators.) > I plan to use my existing Eternal September account to inject > the approved articles. It dawned on me, however, that allowing > that same account to be used by co-moderators (should there be > any), such as via the web interface I intended to deploy, would > perhaps be seen as abuse, so instead I will be providing access > to the queue for the co-moderators to pick articles from there, > and post the approved ones via their own accounts. (Having an > account that allows posting Approved: articles thus becomes a > requirement for prospective co-moderators.) Alternatively, I > can add a co-moderator's email to my aliases(5), so they get > copies of new submissions. Whether or not allowing your co-moderators to use a web interface that posts approved messages using your Eternal September account counts as "abuse" is up to the Eternal September admins. Possibly they will be OK with this as long as you agree to take ultimate responsibility for the posts, but you should ask them in advance for confirmation about this. By the way, have you examined the existing newsgroup charters and moderation policies for the groups you want to take over? These should be available at <https://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/>. You should make sure that you are willing and able to moderate the groups according to these charters and policies. There's no formal procedure for changing them, but if any major changes are necessary, an RFD could be initiated, and we can help with that. Finally, and this is entirely optional, but you may want to consider creating web pages for each of the groups where you provide its charter, moderation policy, submission address, moderator contact address, list of moderators, signing key, and any other pertinent information. This can help make the group more discoverable online and collect important information in a somewhat less ephemeral location. Regards, Tristan -- Usenet Big-8 Management Board https://www.big-8.org/ board@big-8.org