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From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: "Starter Villain" by John Scalzi
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 11:28:55 -0700
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On 5/10/2025 9:11 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:42:14 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/9/2025 9:16 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 May 2025 18:22:03 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
>>> <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/25 16:43, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 5/7/2025 12:29 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
>>>
>>> <snippo>
>>>
>>>>> The young people (under 30) in the USA have been so screwed over that
>>>>> they are turning very conservative.  The young pushed Trump over the top
>>>>> in the 2024 election.  One hopes that they will do so again in 2026 and
>>>>> 2028.
>>>>>       https://www.newsweek.com/republican-support-poll-young-gen-z-2060258
>>>>
>>>> `	You and the young folk who went conservative have flipped ouit.
>>>> They have a good reason being alive in a world destroying itself for the
>>>> convenience of automobiles and air travel.
>>>>
>>>> 	But the Orange man-shaped creature in the Oval Office will do
>>>> very little good for them and I believe I have read that they are
>>>> beginning to figure that out since that one announced his Tariff plans.
>>>
>>> That's the problem at the moment: things are in such flux that it is
>>> hard to keep straight what the /current/ polls are saying or what the
>>> /current/ situation with the Courts might be.
>>>    
>>> So it's hard to tell who is figuring out what.
>>
>> Which is part of the plan.
> 
> I thought the plan was "shock and awe".
> 
> The "shock" we got. Did anyone fell any "awe"? I sure didn't.
> 
> Hence the flux: things did not go as planned.

I didn't claim it was an entirely successful plan.  ;)

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