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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Flibble=E2=80=99s_Leap=3A_Why_Behavioral_Divergence?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Implies_a_Type_Distinction_in_the_Halting_Problem?= Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 21:53:36 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vvrnrg$sjai$2@dont-email.me> References: <vv1UP.77894$JJT6.54808@fx16.ams4> <vvqd4u$g8a1$1@dont-email.me> <7N2UP.527443$wBt6.464256@fx15.ams4> <vvqfgq$gmmk$1@dont-email.me> <os3UP.670056$BFJ.223954@fx13.ams4> <vvqgpt$gmmk$4@dont-email.me> <aG3UP.366972$wBVe.321504@fx06.ams4> <39947848bf73be52ee6fbbeb6d0d929009dfec8e@i2pn2.org> <fR8UP.92502$o31.50010@fx04.ams4> <fb3915123ad5c4703b92df902c37267fce2c4812@i2pn2.org> <vvrhk6$nejb$2@dont-email.me> <vvrhtj$nnmf$1@dont-email.me> <vvrj7l$nt1l$1@dont-email.me> <vvrl0v$o2ab$5@dont-email.me> <vvrm34$nejb$4@dont-email.me> <vvrmh3$sas2$1@dont-email.me> <vvrmnd$s0mk$3@dont-email.me> <vvrn1n$sas2$3@dont-email.me> <vvrn6r$s0mk$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 04:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="15cac720ddbb61c7f6586fe023932af8"; logging-data="937298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+D2Z4aXVwU2QqAqlszAZ8d" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gMQOXS1ZLd+4yEzjXGhVMN3tWDs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vvrn6r$s0mk$5@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250511-4, 5/11/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 5/11/2025 9:42 PM, dbush wrote: > On 5/11/2025 10:39 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/11/2025 9:34 PM, dbush wrote: >>> On 5/11/2025 10:30 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/11/2025 9:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>>> On 12/05/2025 03:05, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 5/11/2025 8:34 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/05/2025 02:12, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No one here is using any actual reasoning >>>>>>>> in their rebuttals of my work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have already shown several places where your 'work' violates >>>>>>> the rules of its implementation's language standard, >>>>>> >>>>>> My compiler disagrees so I can't fix that. >>>>> >>>>> C compilers are obliged to diagnose syntax errors. If they don't, >>>>> they're not-quite-C compilers. You need to decide whether you're >>>>> writing in C or whether you're not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> When testing the proof-of-concept not one line >>>> of my code is relevant. The only thing that needs >>>> be determined is the behavior of DDD under some >>>> HHH >>> >>> Category error. Algorithm DDD isn't fully defined until algorithm >>> HHH is fully defined. >>> >>> So yes the code is relevant. >> >> Algorithm HHH is fully defined as an x86 emulator >> that emulates one or more steps of DDD according >> to the rules of the x86 language. > > Which means "some HHH" is a category error. There is only one algorithm > HHH and one algorithm DDD. > *You absolutely refuse to get the gist of anything* There cannot possibly exist an x86 emulator at machine address 000015d2 that emulates one or more instructions of DDD according to the rules of the x86 language such that the correctly emulated DDD reaches its own "ret" instruction final halt state. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer