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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: LiarBoy Alan Baker Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 08:29:48 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 119 Message-ID: <vvt45c$15nlc$1@dont-email.me> References: <vs1a7n$24aj4$1@dont-email.me> <vs1ls2$27liv$2@dont-email.me> <vshop8$2gao$3@dont-email.me> <vshpkc$69mq$1@dont-email.me> <vtoiq7$2d5nr$2@dont-email.me> <vtoqc1$2nos8$1@dont-email.me> <vtp5fe$31nm2$1@dont-email.me> <vtp63h$32hd7$1@dont-email.me> <vvt098$14fvp$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="945a32bf07eadaf10d65153a8ccb573e"; logging-data="1236652"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19l6Yjuf8DV3wG3DCKUv6u9VmhhYhB1FrI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ODYW/DBGn22FCgmqjR2gsb75pTU= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <vvt098$14fvp$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 6532 On 2025-05-12 07:23, Tom Elam wrote: > On 4/16/2025 5:05 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-04-16 13:55, Tom Elam wrote: >>> On 4/16/2025 1:45 PM, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-16 08:36, Tom Elam wrote: >>>>> On 4/1/2025 6:33 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-01 15:19, Tom Elam wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 3:51 PM, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2025-03-26 09:32, Tom Elam wrote: >>>>>>>>> Since he bought another race car in 2018 liarboy Baker has >>>>>>>>> insisted the Honda engine that came with it was not an >>>>>>>>> advantage on the track. Here is what he stated at the time, see >>>>>>>>> the 3rd entry in the conversation: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/ >>>>>>>>> rWCHEEjs1as/ m/ ecytpx1dBgAJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I've known I wanted a Honda-engined >>>>>>>>> Formula F since I started having to keep a Kent in tune. For a >>>>>>>>> club >>>>>>>>> racer, the convenience of an engine with electronic ignition (no >>>>>>>>> ignition timing to adjust), electronic fuel injection (no >>>>>>>>> carburetor >>>>>>>>> jetting to change with changing conditions) and an alternator >>>>>>>>> to keep >>>>>>>>> the battery charged (no need to charge the battery like the >>>>>>>>> total loss >>>>>>>>> Kent-engined cars) is worth a lot. Not to mention that an >>>>>>>>> engine running >>>>>>>>> with a restrictor and therefore operating at less than the >>>>>>>>> stresses it >>>>>>>>> was designed for." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So he states that the Honda, with its restrictor plate and >>>>>>>>> modern fuel injected and engine control unit that tunes the >>>>>>>>> engine all by itself is not an advantage? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How many drivers have the resources or skills to tune a Ford >>>>>>>>> Kent engine's timing and carb jets for every race to bring out >>>>>>>>> its full power potential? Also, over the long term Alan admits >>>>>>>>> that the Kent is stressed by having to produce more power than >>>>>>>>> it was designed for. How does that affect power over a season >>>>>>>>> of racing? Can't be good. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, despite the new car with what Alan admits is a better >>>>>>>>> engine that he says he wanted has over the last few years >>>>>>>>> almost entirely dropped out of Formula F racing at his home >>>>>>>>> track. Last year he showed up only for the 4th race, had a bit >>>>>>>>> of an accident, and never returned. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now we come to the 2015 season that starts next month. Will >>>>>>>>> liarboy show up or not? You too can find out at https:// >>>>>>>>> www.sccbc.net/ racers/ results/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll certainly be tuning in come April 26! Join me and watch >>>>>>>>> the mayhem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lying ass: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I never once said there weren't advantages to choosing a Honda >>>>>>>> over a Kent. In fact, I explained all of that to you when you >>>>>>>> didn't understand it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What YOU claimed was that the Honda was FASTER ON THE TRACK, and >>>>>>>> that part is what is bullshit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you need me to go through all the quotes... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...again? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's faster on the track because the Kents are not always in top >>>>>>> tune while the Honda takes almost no maintenance. That is implied >>>>>>> by what you said. You bought it hoping to win more races. Admit >>>>>>> that please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your claim was that it was faster like-for-like, Liarboy. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I said: do you want me to show you the quotes? >>>>> >>>>> No need to show the quotes. Admit it Alan, a Kent engine requires >>>>> significant investment in time and money to compete and win races. >>>>> You stated that Doug won so much because he had the resources to >>>>> employ an excellent shop to tune his car. And you were very close >>>>> to him in a lot of races without that expense, and even on marginal >>>>> tires at times. But how many of the other SCCBC FF crowd are able >>>>> to maintain their Kent engines at Doug's level? The Kent on-track >>>>> speeds are theoretically as good as a Honda, but only if the Kent >>>>> is in top form. >>>>> >>>>> There are reasons why there are so few Kents at the Runoffs. The >>>>> Kent is a better engine. Oh, I learned that from you! >>>>> >>>>> Speaking of SCCBC, I just looked at the recent meeting minutes. >>>>> Proposing a building new track 3 hours away? Raising entry fees 30% >>>>> was proposed just to breakven? Driver training entries so low that >>>>> you may want to add practice laps to the schedule? Concerns about >>>>> 2024 drop in race entries? Hmmm. Trouble in paradise? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Wow. >>>> >>>> I've got myself a real live stalker! >>> >>> OMG, what a deflection! Someone following a race course news is now a >>> stalker? Alan, you give egomania a new definition. >> >> You mean someone with absolutely no interest in racing at all >> following the news for a small amateur racing club in a jurisdiction a >> thousand miles away in another country... >> >> ...right? >> > > Just interested in seeing how many lies and deflections I can get out of > you tell. > > Since you're currently on zero...