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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Halting Problem: How my refutation differs to Peter Olcott's Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 10:51:21 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vvt5dp$14pca$11@dont-email.me> References: <BPOTP.66191$v0S.4884@fx14.ams4> <3bc01824e1d95a30b9784942a8b7ef3bc9ec8ff8@i2pn2.org> <UIRTP.228282$_Npd.219273@fx01.ams4> <1cecbb270dfb6a7c37ce23eb4b722f1b85c0e7d3@i2pn2.org> <Fb0UP.77777$JJT6.37000@fx16.ams4> <vvs868$vp30$1@dont-email.me> <vvt0qm$14pca$2@dont-email.me> <vvt15v$13l2b$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:51:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="15cac720ddbb61c7f6586fe023932af8"; logging-data="1205642"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18cVgr5tFmSML+hFbBpHhsS" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ld7DIQg/nKES5agxaIhDW7ktSS0= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250512-2, 5/12/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vvt15v$13l2b$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 5/12/2025 9:38 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 12/05/2025 15:32, olcott wrote: >> On 5/12/2025 2:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-05-11 11:52:05 +0000, Mr Flibble said: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 May 2025 11:49:50 +0000, joes wrote: > > <snip> > >>>>> No. HHH has a string representation, like every program. >>>> >>>> No. Conflating a program with a string representation of the same >>>> program >>>> in the manner of a self-referential dependency is a category (type) >>>> error. >>> >>> There are several meanings for the word "program" but a common one is a >>> string that specifies what shall happen when the program is executed. >>> One possible string representation of that string is the string itself. >>> >> >> A better name is computational unit. > > That's a terrible name. But okay, if you think it's better, who is > anyone here to stop you using it? Just don't expect me to. > What other name encompasses (a) subroutines (b) programs (c) integrated systems comprised of many programs -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer