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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: RE: Re: Disc's without power
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:53:05 -0400
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On 5/11/2025 7:51 PM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Sun May 4 09:51:50 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 May 2025 06:53:05 -0400, zen cycle
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/3/2025 10:56 AM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>> On Fri May 2 14:35:11 2025 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/2025 1:12 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu May 1 19:42:05 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:47:55 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now it is possible that the manaqement software had a problem and it didn't ask me to update. But then the updating dates are all wrong. It does not show me as updating the 830 firmware in March 30, 2025.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, since you're an official beta tester, you should bug report the
>>>>>>> non-appearance of your update problem to Garmin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What it DOES show is that I am a beta software tester so I have the BETA software as a test engineer (though they haven't asked me about it). That means that MY software is NOT the last Garmin update at all but a newer version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No such thing as a beta tester masquerading as a test engineer and
>>>>>>> it's not YOUR software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps it would help if you read something about how the beta test
>>>>>>> program actually works.  Then, you can adjust your assertions to be
>>>>>>> more aligned with reality:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garmin's New Beta Platform Explained & How-To Sign-Up
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2fvIMbEo8>  (6:44)  (May 24, 2022)
>>>>>>> "Over the last few weeks Garmin has been rolling out a new beta
>>>>>>> program, which aims to streamline the process of trying out beta
>>>>>>> features, while also making it easier to file bug reports for issues
>>>>>>> that you find."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Introducing the new Public Beta Program
>>>>>>> <https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-830/312916/introducing-the-new-public-beta-program>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How to enroll for Public Beta Program:
>>>>>>> <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/w/beta-wiki/112/how-to-enroll-for-public-beta-program>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Public Beta Reports:
>>>>>>> <https://forums.garmin.com/beta-program/edge-530-830-1030-series/beta/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff, you really get tiresome. I'm sure that Flunky and Krygowski will say that those addresses work fine for them when they do not and cannot since they have a trailing ">" that changes the address to something that does not exist. Nothing more than proof that they are wi8lling to lie at the drop of a hat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You simply cannot stop yourself from talking about everything you know noyhing about. Does itreally make you feel that good being a fool?
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the fact that you fucked up you browser installation so bad
>>>>> that it can't follow links that work for everyone else should make you
>>>>> really proud.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Considering the fact that you work for people that don't give a damn what you do as long as you sign the paperwork tells us just how important your job is.
>>>
>>> Important enough for them to keep me on for over ten years now and pay
>>> me a lot of money to do it.
>>>
>>>> Tell us again how appending a ">" to the end of an adess makes it the same address? You claim to be an EE who can program should have no problem answering that.
>>>
>>> Considering I haven't explained it to you yet I wouldn't be able to tell
>>> you 'again', but the answer is simple - it doesn't. First off, Jeffs
>>> link didn't simply put a angle bracket at the end, it put an angle
>>> bracket at the beginning also.
>>
>> Yep.  The angle brackets don't work as delimiters unless there is a
>> matched pair of angle brackets.
>>
>>> Secondly, any browser app will look at
>>> the link and exclude the common characters like brackets or quotes and
>>> extract the link. All of these examples will work with a simple mouse
>>> click (possible a crtl+click in some mail apps)
>>>
>>>   "https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/"
>>> [https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/]
>>> <https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/"
>>> https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/]
>>> https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/>
>>>
>>>
>>> "https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/
>>> [https://byjus.com/physics/pulse-width-modulation/
>>> <https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/
>>
>> All those work as expected using Forte Agent.  However, one of the
>> purposes of the angle brackets is to deal with spaces and special
>> characters in the middle of a URL.  That's also the reason that online
>> news services replace spaces with "-" dash characters in the URL.  For
>> example, trying to use double quotes to deal with blanks results in
>> non-functional URL's like these:
>>
>> "https://www.hvtechnologies.com/the basics of time domain
>> reflectometry tdr"
>>
>> https://www.hvtechnologies.com/"the basics of time domain
>> reflectometry tdr"
>>
>> The angle brackets also prevent the spelling checker in Forte Agent
>> from attempting to spell check words in the URL.  It will correctly
>> ignore spelling issues in anything that starts with http or https and
>> which is properly delimited by angle brackets.  Without these, Forte
>> Agent will try to spell check everything after the first space in the
>> URL.
>>
>>> Unless you're tommy who somehow managed to fuck up a default browser
>>> intsallation app.
>>
>> Tom is not using a browser.  There's no line in the header identifying
>> the software in any of his postings.  For example:
>>    User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
>> is mising.  Instead, he's probably using the news reader from his NNTP
>> service (Newshosting.com).
>> <https://www.newshosting.com/newsreader/>
>> Another indication that he's using their news reader is the mess it
>> makes dealing with upper/lower case replies such as:
>>    Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Disc's without power
>>
>>> And even if it is somehow screwing up the address:
>>> - it should be simple enough for you to copy the link and remove the
>>> brackets
>>> - why is it only happening to you?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://moneyinc.com/50-worst-places-to-live-in-the-u-s/
> 
> 9th worst place to live in America - Youngstown, OH. Maybe you forget Frank getting his armer on to ride through Youngstown?
> 
> Pictures like that don't really tell a story and it is entirely opinion.

Yes, you linked an opinion piece. Here's a fact-based pace

https://businessjournaldaily.com/youngstown-ranked-as-one-of-the-best-places-to-live-in-the-us/


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