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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Flibble=E2=80=99s_Leap=3A_Why_Behavioral_Divergence?= =?UTF-8?Q?_Implies_a_Type_Distinction_in_the_Halting_Problem?= Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:54:30 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <vvt5jl$15ceh$5@dont-email.me> References: <vv1UP.77894$JJT6.54808@fx16.ams4> <vvqd4u$g8a1$1@dont-email.me> <7N2UP.527443$wBt6.464256@fx15.ams4> <vvqfgq$gmmk$1@dont-email.me> <os3UP.670056$BFJ.223954@fx13.ams4> <vvqgpt$gmmk$4@dont-email.me> <aG3UP.366972$wBVe.321504@fx06.ams4> <39947848bf73be52ee6fbbeb6d0d929009dfec8e@i2pn2.org> <fR8UP.92502$o31.50010@fx04.ams4> <fb3915123ad5c4703b92df902c37267fce2c4812@i2pn2.org> <vvrhk6$nejb$2@dont-email.me> <vvrhtj$nnmf$1@dont-email.me> <43f0f4158610d859516ba3e0115a8a2b8bd7630b@i2pn2.org> <vvrl9h$o2ab$6@dont-email.me> <0f61ca2a124d35f813b117bcf078278ccf719d46@i2pn2.org> <vvt58r$14pca$10@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:54:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d587ba6f088c47ed8fd2ad250ebfd646"; logging-data="1225169"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5uL6D1MqJF3RY6BsvVjmf" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lZ4AOTcSoCaVbH0jq64lHkbjzGE= In-Reply-To: <vvt58r$14pca$10@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 5/12/2025 11:48 AM, olcott wrote: > On 5/12/2025 6:51 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/11/25 10:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 5/11/2025 8:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 5/11/25 9:12 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 5/11/2025 8:07 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>>>> On 12/05/2025 00:19, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/11/25 5:42 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am happy with my final solution; I glanced over all your >>>>>>>> responses in this thread and they are all invalid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, you are admtting to being happy to be in error. >>>>>> >>>>>> He has form for placing a finger in each ear and yelling "I'm >>>>>> right I'm right I'm right you're all wrong!" >>>>>> >>>>>> There's no talking to 2-year-olds. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No one here is using any actual reasoning >>>>> in their rebuttals of my work. They rely >>>>> on dogma, misdirection, deflection and the >>>>> strawman error. >>>>> >>>>> The last three methods are dishonest. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No, they are responding with rules and definitions from the system >>>> in question, >>>> >>> >>> A syntax error reporting by one compiler and considered >>> irrelevant by another compiler provides zero evidence >>> that DDD correctly emulated by some HHH halts. >> >> I wasn't talking about "Syntax Errors". >> >> I was talking about the rules of the field of Computation Theory. >> >>> >>> _DDD() >>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>> [00002183] c3 ret >>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>> >>> THE ONLY THING THAT SHOWS THIS IS THE IS THE >>> COMPLETE SEQUENCE OF EMULATED STEPS WHERE DDD HALTS. >> >> Which is impossble to do as the above is *NOT* a program, as it fails >> to have all the code that it uses. > > It need not be a program knucklehead. In that case, what you're doing has nothing to do with the halting problem, as halting is a property of programs / algorithms, not individual C functions.