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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Halting Problem: How my refutation differs to Peter Olcott's Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 17:07:33 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vvt6c5$15hku$1@dont-email.me> References: <BPOTP.66191$v0S.4884@fx14.ams4> <3bc01824e1d95a30b9784942a8b7ef3bc9ec8ff8@i2pn2.org> <UIRTP.228282$_Npd.219273@fx01.ams4> <1cecbb270dfb6a7c37ce23eb4b722f1b85c0e7d3@i2pn2.org> <Fb0UP.77777$JJT6.37000@fx16.ams4> <vvs868$vp30$1@dont-email.me> <vvt0qm$14pca$2@dont-email.me> <vvt15v$13l2b$2@dont-email.me> <vvt5dp$14pca$11@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 18:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="326561ee20835be188f66800f9e0102a"; logging-data="1230494"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19igF/CEID5Noi11r6w+Y3GxpmIFpq/g7on2AuDj3M1Mw==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qgwLDaxiB1Fy4i0cW//rpaZZ7zs= In-Reply-To: <vvt5dp$14pca$11@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2699 On 12/05/2025 16:51, olcott wrote: > On 5/12/2025 9:38 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 12/05/2025 15:32, olcott wrote: >>> On 5/12/2025 2:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-05-11 11:52:05 +0000, Mr Flibble said: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2025 11:49:50 +0000, joes wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>>>>> No. HHH has a string representation, like every program. >>>>> >>>>> No. Conflating a program with a string representation of the >>>>> same program >>>>> in the manner of a self-referential dependency is a category >>>>> (type) error. >>>> >>>> There are several meanings for the word "program" but a >>>> common one is a >>>> string that specifies what shall happen when the program is >>>> executed. >>>> One possible string representation of that string is the >>>> string itself. >>>> >>> >>> A better name is computational unit. >> >> That's a terrible name. But okay, if you think it's better, who >> is anyone here to stop you using it? Just don't expect me to. >> > > What other name encompasses > (a) subroutines > (b) programs > (c) integrated systems comprised of many programs If you like 'computational unit', go for it. Nobody's stopping you. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within