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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 00:22:15 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vvuku8$1j6s0$7@dont-email.me> References: <vvte01$14pca$29@dont-email.me> <vvte62$15ceh$18@dont-email.me> <vvtej1$181kg$1@dont-email.me> <vvtjj8$15ceh$19@dont-email.me> <vvtl1g$19cvp$1@dont-email.me> <vvtlmm$15ceh$20@dont-email.me> <vvto7c$1a1pf$1@dont-email.me> <vvtpqu$1agqu$1@dont-email.me> <vvtq8d$1a1pf$2@dont-email.me> <vvtqn1$1agqu$2@dont-email.me> <vvtsmf$1aube$1@dont-email.me> <vvtsq5$1agqu$3@dont-email.me> <vvttf7$1bfib$1@dont-email.me> <vvu008$1c062$1@dont-email.me> <vvu0mm$1c0vi$1@dont-email.me> <vvu0si$1c062$2@dont-email.me> <vvu1m8$1c86j$1@dont-email.me> <vvu2q2$1c062$3@dont-email.me> <vvu3ht$1c86j$3@dont-email.me> <vvu3lm$1c062$5@dont-email.me> <vvu42d$1cmbo$1@dont-email.me> <vvu46e$1c062$6@dont-email.me> <vvu5ch$1csst$1@dont-email.me> <vvu5j3$1c062$7@dont-email.me> <vvu5uk$1d27t$1@dont-email.me> <vvu88j$1c062$9@dont-email.me> <vvu95f$1deu5$1@dont-email.me> <vvuk9b$1k6qa$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 07:22:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="43745e07502355f27fac5eed8a7d2487"; logging-data="1678208"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19gz0aLUGIbE5W9y1txJSEY" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:e0BnSpxU+oJ6UEltGehx4Y7LGSA= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vvuk9b$1k6qa$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250513-0, 5/12/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US On 5/13/2025 12:11 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 13/05/2025 03:01, olcott wrote: >> If the Goldbach conjecture is true (and there is >> no short-cut) > > We don't know that. Fermat's Last Theorem had a short cut, but it took > 358 years to find it. At that rate, we won't find Goldbach's short cut > (if it has one) for another 75 years. > >> this requires testing against every >> element of the set of natural numbers an infinite >> computation. > > Only if it's true. So if it's true, the testing program will never halt. > But if it's false, the tester will eventually find the counter-example, > print it, and stop. > > So a program that can tell whether another program will halt can tell us > whether Goldbach's conjecture is true. > > It would be the short cut that you say doesn't exist. > I am refuting the key halting problem, proof I am not refuting the halting problem. As soon as it is understood that I am correct that HHH(DD) computes the mapping from its input to recursive emulation. Then in a few small steps it will be know that I refuted the conventional Halting Problem proofs. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer