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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Try and prove that DDD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its final halt state Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 12:19:20 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vvv2qo$1nqc0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vvma0u$34vcu$1@dont-email.me> <vvmvu6$3dt3n$1@dont-email.me> <vvnrkv$3in62$7@dont-email.me> <vvpq4q$446u$1@dont-email.me> <vvqiu1$gldn$8@dont-email.me> <vvs8k1$vr8s$1@dont-email.me> <vvt10i$14pca$3@dont-email.me> <vvt1b3$13l2b$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 11:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="69576f0644f413b581cc430fda63c863"; logging-data="1829248"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+xmZx3DlgJxdhIYiH5v/hD" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:MyZfBrcbqfTB0qbWwAETYzLGi7w= Bytes: 1786 On 2025-05-12 14:41:38 +0000, Richard Heathfield said: > On 12/05/2025 15:36, olcott wrote: > > <snip> > >> It is nutty to require a simulating termination >> analyzer to simulate a non-terminating input forever. > > I have to agree with you here. In fact, you've put your finger on the > precise reason that it's nutty to try to analyse a program's > termination behaviour by simulating it. The latter is not as nutty as the former. The problem whether a program terminates in a reasonable time for a particular input is determinable with simulation. -- Mikko