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On 2/25/25 9:32 PM, chrisv wrote:
> Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the
> Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5.
> I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core
> Xeon.  Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the
> reasons for my choices.
> 
> CPU:  Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400)  In 2023 a
> Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my
> needs.  Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I
> remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores.  The
> larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds,
> gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and
> that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion
> cores.  It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total
> system cost by only 10%.  And, who knows, maybe some day I will do
> something that will utilize all the cores.
> 
> Motherboard:  Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar
> WiFi)  Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards.  The MSI
> board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try.  I
> perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI.  I have no need
> for the extras that a Z790 board offers.
> 
> RAM:  G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G
> is way plenty, and will be for a long time.  But in the spirit of this
> PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to
> endow it with more RAM.  I thought about 64G, but that just seemed
> ridiculous, for what I do.  The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and
> different.  The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of
> custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support
> faster RAM.
> 
> SSD:  Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same)  Plenty good.  I see no
> need for PCIe 5, here.
> 
> PSU:  Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold)
> Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC.
> 
> CPU cooler:  Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620)
> Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers.  I might have bought the
> Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are
> no longer available.  The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said
> that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably
> priced.
> 
> Case:  Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same)  Has the jacks that
> I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel.
> 
> GPU:  Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070)  Both are far from state of the
> art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games,
> that I do.


   The ASUS TUF boards are always a good way to
   start - very good. ALWAYS built with those
   before I retired - even my new home tower.

   DO suggest Samsung SSDs/M2s over all others.

   Kingston mem ... perfectly good. There are
   competitors but they're not REALLY any
   better.

   Start with a great motherboard and everything
   else falls into place.

   Ummmmm ... why did you include a 'guns' group
   in the headers ??? Planning an armed take-over
   of Kingston ???   :-)