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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 15:50:57 +0000 Subject: Re: SpaceTime Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <6249F967.3B4A@ix.netcom.com> <624B373A.68E5@ix.netcom.com> <624BBDF1.1594@ix.netcom.com> <624C7C50.638A@ix.netcom.com> <lbqi8uF7r8kU3@mid.individual.net> <SZCcnfMeCMTTzMT7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <17d4f2968eb77c5d$1$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <LM-cnTrdnMfS4cb7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17d4fbd13cb93f7c$1$424441$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <Vf2dnfB9YupXFcb7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17d51b870a677a09$2$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 08:51:01 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17d51b870a677a09$2$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <wLednXtzs718CcH7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 95 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-mZSu3mH3j9HIDrDU/zyaxpPTa7pdqT9JjUggHvKZc/hOl9KJMGZI+Iqa10rH9RZ+6Oz/2hAubpHl2z1!/RvGxWEjCgKL/B7Ghr2/cj51LFL1IHQ42yCMVjbCyCDJQ5036Bb6VzgaMX9w4xFT6VtYhGnjLXI= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5346 On 06/01/2024 11:18 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > W dniu 01.06.2024 o 22:46, Ross Finlayson pisze: >> On 06/01/2024 01:37 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>> W dniu 01.06.2024 o 21:53, Ross Finlayson pisze: >>>> On 06/01/2024 10:48 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>>>> W dniu 31.05.2024 o 06:25, Tom Roberts pisze: >>>>>> On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>>> Spacetime is simply what exists, [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a >>>>>> fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything >>>>>> you >>>>>> write. >>>>>> >>>>>> Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in >>>>>> the >>>>>> real world. >>>>> >>>>> No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a >>>>> fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you >>>>> write. >>>>> Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships >>>>> gedanken/fabricated by some religious maniacs, like yourself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Space-Time is a perfectly good idea of a >>> >>> >>> Measured its goodness? Or just sure it >>> must be perfectly good because you're >>> sooooooo best? >>> >>> >>> >>> continuous manifold of >>>> Euclidean space >>> >>> >>> A lie, of course, your idiot guru has rejected >>> Euclidean math as it didn't want to fit his >>> madness. >>> >> >> Einstein didn't, he entertained different coordinate settings >> and that tensors connect them, then though he at some point >> in his expressed opinion said silly things about simultaneity, >> later his expressed opinion included a clock hypothesis and >> a "the time", where he introduces the "spacial" for the "special" >> contra the "spatial" with respect to "t". > > The mumble of the idiot was not even consistent. > And, yes, later on, in his GR shit, his madness > reached the point when he rejected basic [Euclidean] > math - because it didn't want to fit his postulates. > Well, the point is that he took it back, and that the "spacial for SR" and "spatial for GR" reflects that "SR is local" then as with regards to GR, nowhere is there yet the Euclidean and torsion to the highly-nonlinear to the free rotational frames, that rotating frames are independent. So, people who think that curved space-time involves discontinuity anywhere have the wrong idea, when it's only descriptive about the geodesy, which is connected everywhere, all the time, since forever. That Einstein was a model aggrandizer has that then Einstein matured, and developed a philosophy of what to him was a model physicist (who shuts up and computes) and a model philosopher (of physics, for the principled and theoretical). So, Einstein matured, and his later works about what "Einstein's" theory is, is, that he put GR in front and made SR local and made it one theory Relativity instead of two theories, then his key concern upon which he focussed, was, the centrally symmetric and the "Einstein's bridge", that formulaically, effects a brief notation of the rotational to the linear or vice-versa, as part of his studied goal of "Newton's zero-eth laws", out of his philosophy, at least a simple formula "Einstein's bridge", for his model physicist, then he wrote that there wasn't enough mathematics for his model physicist for super-classical wave mechanics, continuous, and he wasn't sure how it could be that shut-up-and-compute could be educated to be anything more than stuck in linear approximations. So, Einstein being a "grandiose hedge" sort of won out from his being a "model aggrandizer", yet, most aggrandizing sorts don't know the difference and so their opinion equals zero.