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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <wPcweKavDU4U5ORbDeYFqGEOo7A@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: 1. On the notion of simultaneity in special relativity References: <5150-jnpDYCANSjRcEL1IJ-P7kY@jntp> <vapc6f$3tel7$1@dont-email.me> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: vDAz8qEbuIpiJCIENeH-9FdsdAs JNTP-ThreadID: 7ctB9ekfZt3slDMIbYhq_FkUigA JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=wPcweKavDU4U5ORbDeYFqGEOo7A@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Thu, 29 Aug 24 11:32:26 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/128.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-08-29T11:32:26Z/9004654"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> Bytes: 2089 Lines: 20 Le 29/08/2024 à 10:40, Mikko a écrit : > > We also can do otherwise. It is best to define simultaneity so that it > can be used for the construction of the time coordinate of a coordinate > system. If we can find a signal that has the same speed in all directions > we can use that. For example, sound in a metal bar that is stationary > with respect to the coordinate system being constructed. > > Mikko If I could send a sound along a metal bar from here to the moon (a bar 3.10^8m long for example). The sound itself would not be constant according to the longitudinal direction of travel. It would be faster in the return direction. And vice versa for a lunar observer. Do you understand this? [ ] Yes [ ] No R.H.