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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:28:45 +0000 Subject: Re: Gravitational time dilation HOAX along the years Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <84deac76f160f1f681f5275e10d7e683@www.novabbs.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:28:45 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <84deac76f160f1f681f5275e10d7e683@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <wZqcnbZJrLmAZvz6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 92 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-C4Euy9Kl7iYT+JMeJ2BQn0A6Xa/Aim/0dYCxf2eeRAdY9JsfpZfgX9Kx3s3MLKPJHHFWL2glig8cN9e!eERh54ac4pXhGvbljCd/Vb+dOKrBQohJx9xRonKvyvpQdpbociINyRLj2XK8yRlGQM0RBf/Br9U= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 5067 On 12/17/2024 11:50 AM, rhertz wrote: > EXCERPTS FROM EINSTEIN'S 1911 PAPER: On the Influence of Gravitation on > the Propagation of Light > > *********************************************************************** > 2. On the Gravitation of Energy > ........................................ > We consider the process of transmission of energy by radiation from S2 > to S1 from a system K0, which is free of acceleration. > .................. > Therefore by the ordinary theory of relativity the radiation arriving at > S1 does not possess the energy E2, but a greater energy E1, which is > related to E2; to a rst approximation, by the equation: > > (1) E1 = E2 (1 + gh/c²) > > By our assumption exactly the same relation holds if the same process > takes place in the system K, which is not accelerated, but is provided > with a gravitational field. > > In this case we may replace by the potential gh of the gravitation > vector in S2, if the arbitrary constant of ɸ in S1 is set to zero. We > then have the equation: > > (1a) E1 = E2 + E2 ɸ/c² > > This equation expresses the energy law for the process under > observation. The energy E1 arriving at S1 is greater than the energy E2, > measured by the same means, which was emitted from S2, the excess being > the potential energy of the mass E2/c² in the gravitational field. This > shows that in order to satisfy the energy principle we have to ascribe > to the energy E, before its emission from S2, a potential energy, due to > gravity, which corresponds to the (GRAVITATIONAL) MASS E/c². > ..................................... > 3. Time and the Velocity of Light in the Gravitational Field > > If the radiation emitted in the uniformly accelerated system K0 in S2 > toward S1 had the frequency f2 relative to the clock at S2, then, > relative to S1, at its arrival at S1 it no longer has the frequency f2 > relative to an identical clock at S1, but a greater frequency f1, such > that, to a first approximation > > (2) f1 = f2 (1 + gh/c²) > > ****************************************************************************** > > > > Since 1911, and for more than 100 years, Eq (2) has remained under the > form Δf/f₀ = gh/c² or equivalent, before or after the 1917 > Schwarzschild-Hilbert solution in GR. > > 1911, Einstein: Δf/f₀ = gh/c² (light has mass E/c², asserted > Einstein) > > 1959, Pound-Rebka: Δf/f₀ = gh/c² (Is Einstein right with light having > mass?) > > 1971, Hafele-Keating: Δτ/τ₀ = gh/c² (Is Einstein right with GR time > dilation?) > > 2015, Mudrak et. all: Δf/f₀ = GMₑ/c² [(a - r)/(ar) + J₂/2] ≈ gh/c² (if > a ≈ r) > > > > > > ALL OF THE AB0VE CRAP IS FALSE, AND CAN BE TRACED BACK TO THE 1907-1911 > PERIOD, WHEN THE RETARDED TRIED TO INCORPORATE GRAVITY TO SR. > > BY 1915-1917, THE SCHWARZSCHILS-HILBERT PARTICULAR SOLUTION EMERGED, > WITH A VERY SPECIFIC CONTEXT FOR APPLICABILITY. IN PARTICULAR, THE SUN > WAS MODELED AS A > NON-ROTATING POINT-LIKE MASS, WITH MERCURY AS A MASSLESS TEST PARTICLE. > > YET, RELATIVISTIC MORONS INSIST ON APPLYING IT TO EVERYTHING ABOVE THE > EARTH'S SURFACE. EITHER MOVING OR STATIC. BECAUSE THEY ARE IMMORAL > SOLD-OUTS, THAT SAW A COW TO BE MILKED TO ITS DEATH, WHILE THEY'RE > PROFITING IN MANY WAYS. > > THE PSEUDO-SCIENCE OF RELATIVISM IS USED BY PARASITES TO HAVE A NICE AND > UNACCOUNTABLE WAY OF LIVING. THEY ALSO RELY ON AMATEURS FOLLOWERS OF THE > CULT, TO SPREAD THEIR SHIT, TRUSTING IN THEIR BORN IMBECILITY AS > GULLIBLE CRETINS. Actually space-contraction after motion was arrived at long before that, where what you're looking at is ten different things mashed into a muddy wad, and what you're looking at is what _you're_ seeing.