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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!nntp.terraraq.uk!.POSTED.tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk!not-for-mail From: Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Website Certs Will Soon Last Only 47 Days Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 09:28:22 +0100 Organization: terraraq NNTP server Message-ID: <wwv4iytaimx.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> References: <vtc5an$2oj80$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: innmantic.terraraq.uk; posting-host="tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk:172.17.207.6"; logging-data="158201"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@innmantic.terraraq.uk" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MHaSNa7b3XoktToK1ZpAFpFZSS0= X-Face: h[Hh-7npe<<b4/eW[]sat,I3O`t8A`(ej.H!F4\8|;ih)`7{@:A~/j1}gTt4e7-n*F?.Rl^ F<\{jehn7.KrO{!7=:(@J~]<.[{>v9!1<qZY,{EJxg6?Er4Y7Ng2\Ft>Z&W?r\c.!4DXH5PWpga"ha +r0NzP?vnz:e/knOY)PI- X-Boydie: NO Bytes: 2735 Lines: 31 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > The CA/Browser Forum (a group that includes those entities that issue > you with attested SSL/TLS certificates) has voted to severely shorten > the valid duration of its certificates from one year to just 47 days > <https://www.computerworld.com/article/3960658/vendors-vote-to-radically-slash-website-certificate-duration.html>. More concrete details at https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/553. > Some see this as a revenue grab. Yes, it may be, but there are also > good security reasons for doing so. The “revenue grab” theory is rather dubious. The proposal is from a device vendor, not a CA; they will make no money from it at all. If your CA charges by the renewal _and_ doesn’t adjust prices to reflect the shorter lifetime of individual certificates, then yes, it’ll get a lot more expensive; an example of shrinkflation. That’d be time to migrate to a CA with a more reasonable pricing model. > The revenue-grab reason may backfire. For most purposes, a free cert > service like Let’s Encrypt is quite sufficient, and it’s easy enough > to set your system to run a cron task (or systemd timer) to > auto-renew. This already happens by default on a Debian installation, > for example. Right, the organizations who will have a real problem are those still renewing certificates manually. They have a choice between spending a bit more on their own staffing, or automating renewal (probably cutting their overall costs in the long run). -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/