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From: "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
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Subject: Re: Cinema Ratings
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 12:23:20 +0100
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The True Doctor wrote:

> On 06/07/2024 12:16, Blueshirt wrote:
> > 
> > Plenty of cinemas in large UK cities must have shown the
> > Doctor Who S1 finale as some people have said on Doctor Who
> > online forums that they attended. Why would they lie?
> 
> The BBC booked the theatres for a private showing. Even if no
> one attended it would have counted as a full house. What is it
> that you don't understand?

It wasn't a private showing. The cinema chains sold tickets
directly to the public for Doctor Who, as they would any movie.
This is easily researched. The BBC did not sell tickets direct.

If any YouTube creator is telling you otherwise they are wrong.

> > No, YOU are the one making an outrageous claim. Doctor Who
> > has been shown in cinemas before, did you claim that was all
> > made up too? What would the BBC achieve by taking viewers
> > away from watching Doctor Who episodes on their iPlayer and
> > having them sit in a cinema instead? That is not a logical
> > proposition.
> 
> No one is watching on iPlayer fool. We went through all that
> last time.

Clearly that is not the case or the 28 day consolidated viewing
figures would not be higher than the overnights. So if the
episode ratings are creeping up over 7/14/28 days, people must
be watching Doctor Who on the iPlayer!

I know you like conspiracy theories but BARB are not adding
viewers to the Doctor Who ratings just to prove you wrong!
 
> The ratings are all fiddled. Amazon want The Boys at number 1,
> My Lady Jane at number 2 and Space Cadet at number 3 so they
> pushed them on everyone to give them the viewing figures they
> wanted. It's all a pack of lies.

Says you. 
 
> > You sit in front of a PC you could easily have researched
> > what cinemas were showing Doctor Who. But doing research
> > doesn't suit
> 
> Why should I? Doctor Who is dead.

Or, doing some research might prove you wrong?
 
> > your agenda as it would prove you wrong. You could have even
> > tried to book a seat to see if it was real if you were so
> > sceptical.
> 
> I did my research. See above. No one is watching Doctor Who
> because it ended in 2017. No one is watching Doctor Whoke
> either. The cinemas were all empty. It's the equivalent of
> Amazon pretending people actually watched The Boys, My Lady
> Jane, and Space Cadet. They didn't.

Try again... do some more research
 
> > RTD didn't book any cinemas, or claim that he did. 
> 
> Yes he did or Bad Wolf or the BBC did. It was a stupid
> publicity stunt.

Publicity for Doctor Who, yes. Having the season finale shown in
the cinema was about boosting the show's public profile.

> > The cinemas reported £ in takings... that money was from
> > tickets
> 
> No they didn't. Where is your evidence? The BBC booked the
> theatres and thus paid for all the tickets. It's an audience
> figure manipulation fraud. No one went to watch but it still
> counts as full rooms.

Then why were tickets advertised for sale by the various cinemas
chains then if the BBC paid for all the tickets?

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-cinema-where-to-watch-finale/

> > sold. Why would the cinema chains report takings if they
> > didn't get them. Is it all one big conspiracy just to prove
> > YOU wrong? 
> 
> When was the last time a cinema reported what it pays in tax
> to anyone but the tax man? The cinemas reported nothing.

Wrong again... cinemas always report their takings to someone or
how do movies get to know what their box office takings were?
Box office takings are a major metric for films.

Likewise, Doctor Who's takings were announced... so clearly you
need to pay a bit more attention.

https://www.blogtorwho.com/doctor-who-uk-cinema-box-office-data/ 

> > The BBC didn't go to every cinema and book tickets for Doctor
> > Who screenings as a PR stunt. If you seriously believe that
> > and are not just trolling, then you really do need help.
> 
> Yes they did. Anyone can book a cinema for a private screening.

Except it wasn't a private screening... as we have already
established.
 
> > Really? Now Doctor Who forums are full of BBC sock puppets?
> > All to counter your claim (that you saw on YouTube) that
> > nobody is watching Doctor Who?!  
> 
> They're no different to me watching The Boys on Amazon. Hardly
> anyone else watched more than 10 seconds of it or at all. See
> above. It's an advertizing scam.
> 
> > > It's well known that advertising, media, and publicity
> > > agencies are behind most of these accounts. Ask Elon Musk
> > > and he will confirm it.
> > 
> > The world is flat, the moon landings didn't happen and the US
> > government was behind 9/11... right?
> 
> So Doctor Whoke and the BBC would have you believe. Remember
> Isaac Newton is Indian. Remember Henry VIII is a black
> sub-Saharan African.

BREAKING NEWS: Doctor Who is fictional drama, not a documentary. 

> > It sounds like you need to stop playing games online and get
> > out more!
> 
> No. My gaming videos get more viewers than Doctor Whoke on
> Disney+.

My money is on, NOT!
 
> > The people buying the tickets were the fans going to see
> > Doctor Who at the cinema... 
> 
> No they were not. Only the BBC bought tickets. It's a scam.

You have been misinformed. 
 
> > Stop being stupid. Plenty of people were there.  
> 
> Where are the pictures of full theatres? Come on. It should be
> able to produce them if as you claim people were there.

What cinema goer takes pictures of audiences in cinemas? Not
normal people anyway. 
 
> > If I still lived in London I would have known what cinemas
> > were showing Doctor Who as I am a Doctor Who fan. I suspect I
> 
> If I still lived in London I would not as I am a Doctor Who
> fan and Doctor Who ended in 2017.

Trolling again I see...

Says Doctor Who "ended" but still watches it!
 
> > wouldn't have had to travel too far to find a cinema to watch
> > the Doctor Who season finale. I never lived in a cave!  
> 
> And when you entered the room all the seats would have been
> empty.
> > 
> > The cinemas have announced their takings from those
> > showings...
> 
> No they have not.

Wrong again... (Not that anybody is surprised by that at this
stage.)

Check link posted above.

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