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Subject: Re: gulf of america
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 19:55:26 -0000 (UTC)
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Marion wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:16:27 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
>
>
>>>>>Countries can choose to name places within their own borders
>>>>>whatever they like. The Gulf of Mexico is not within the US's
>>>>>jurisdiction.
>>>>
>>>>Yes he does. His executive order to rename the body of water is
>>>>pertinent to US federal documents. He�s not forcing the
>>>>international community to change their documents. 
>>>
>>>They never will. At least not on the order of a convicted
>>>criminal.  And learn to give appropriate replies to posts.
>>>
>>
>>Last I saw the international community goes along with the policies
>>of the US. Even those who hate Trump.
>
>Hi badgolferman,
>
>It's interesting to read how Joerg Lorenz thinks, as he's the
>quintessential uneducated prole in this (and the Android) ng.
>
>Joerg is different than the Apple trolls such as Jolly Roger, who is
>the canonical "Apple is my God" troll, which means we can learn from
>both.
>
>Joerg is, in some ways, much like Alan Baker, in that both feel they
>understand fully what they don't even scratch the surface of in
>knowledge.
>
>Neither Joerg Lorenz nor Alan Baker delve any deeper into anything
>other than scratching the surface - and both are mere parrots - but
>fundamentally - while they're both mere unthinking parrots - Joerg
>Lorenz feels that everyone else is stupid - and only he - Joerg the
>Scholar - knows all.
>
>And yet, paradoxically, in every post, Joerg knows less than nothing.
>
>As for your statement that the free world follows the US leadership,
>I'm sure it's commonly done - but also - they break free of US
>hegemony too.
>
>If, for example, over time, the US renames the gulf in question, it
>may that we experience a switchover period of confusion, much like
>"X, formerly known as twitter" did for a while, and it may be that if
>the Democrats ever win back the swing states, that they can switch
>the naming back, but I suspect what will happen, for a while, is what
>happened when I was in elementary school for the island of Formosa.
>
>On all the maps when I was a child, the islands were named both
>Formosa and Taiwan (as the wall maps dated to well before Alaska &
>Hawaii were states).
>
>Over time, we started seeing the school maps switch from Formosa to
>Taiwan.  Same kind of slow-transformation thing may happen here -
>what do you think?


Absolutely!  Much like when Persia was renamed to Iran or Turkey was
renamed to Turkiye.  Granted those were at the request of the countries
involved, but the principle is the same.  When official government
documents get changed, eventually the new name takes hold.  The
official FAA database and other government documents have been changed
and at some point people will start using the new name.

I am a Washington Redskins fan.  I was born in Washington so my fandom
is in my blood.  I absolutely hate the new name of Commanders and
refuse to call them that name, instead referring to them as the
ex-Redskins.  However I know that's their new name and will eventually
have to adapt at some point, especially since the new owner has doused
water on any hope we had of another name change.