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On 12/25/24 4:30 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 02:15:44 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
> wrote in <BcucnUKMhO-9LPb6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com>:
> 
>> On 12/24/24 2:21 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 01:31:38 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Me, I just generally avoid serious kernel upgrades ...
>>>>      just the usual auto-upgrades until I feel it's time to jump up two or
>>>>      three whole distro versions. It's only 'home use' now, so I'm not so
>>>>      worried about Vlad and Xi.
>>>
>>> The Fedora box pulls down kernels frequently and is usually only a minor
>>> version or two behind the latest. The Ubuntu box is still 6.8.0. They both
>>> work fine for anything I do.
>>
>>     Zactly ... ordinary upgrades almost always get it done.
>>
>>     Again though, a busy outwards-facing server, some of
>>     those point upgrades MAY be valuable.
> 
> I remembered this one:
> 
> "EXT4 Has A Very Nice Performance Optimization For Linux 6.11"
> 
> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.11-EXT4


   Maybe ... but it's STILL "mass storage" and will
   be VASTLY slower than the CPU and such.

   Oh well, better than tape reels and such ...

   I kinda remember doing code 'overlays' with stuff
   pulled off those spinny tapes ... like WOW slow !
   The good 'ole "batch" days  :-)

   Turbo Pascal did 'overlays' too - and had to use
   'em early on with limited PCs. However 'cheap'
   HDDs had been invented so it wasn't THAT bad.

   5 1/4 full-height Rodime 10 MEGAbyte HDD ...
   that's the first 'cheap' one I used. Something
   like $2600 1980s dollars. My poor boss spent
   the whole weekend with the thing trying to
   get it to boot the system. I looked at it on
   Monday ... turned out he was just too IMPATIENT
   and would restart over and over and over before
   the boot routine could fully kick in  :-)

   Not sure if those were "MFM" or just "FM".

   STILL kinda write software with the 'batch'
   approach in mind. First bit does its stuff
   and makes temp file, then the second works
   on that and makes another temp file, on
   and on until it's done. Advantage - you can
   LOOK at those temp files for debugging clues.
   Just include a "-P" 'preserve tempfiles' option.