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On 9/24/24 4:01 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>> On 9/21/24 8:03 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> Rust is laughable garbage.
>>>
>>> Some jerk at Mozilla cobbles some shit together and it ends
>>> up impressing his co-workers, all network "programmers" who
>>> are the lowest of the low.
>>
>>  Look ... 'Rust' is really no better, or worse, than
>>  a LOT of existing computer languages. If you LIKE
>>  its vibe, USE it. If not, DON'T
>>
>>  Python wasn't always popular. Took time to build
>>  a real following.
>>
>>  Me, I'd rather use 'C' ... which was a brand new
>>  language when I got into computers - it was the
>>  Cool New Thing on PDP-11s. However the syntax IS,
>>  and especially can be MADE, a bit obscure. More
>>  'obvious', 'self-documenting' langs DO have an
>>  advantage.
>>
>>  Still have my K&R 'C' book - and stick pretty
>>  much TOO it. I'd also rec "Algorithms in 'C'"
>>  by Sedgewick. STILL consult that.
>>
>>  But my #1 fave is still Pascal. Poetry  :-)
>>  Thank you professor Wirth !
>>
>>  Oh, "network programming" is HARD ... those people
>>  are NOT the "lowest of the low" by any means. The
>>  whole Modern World depends on them.
>>
>>  But then you're just trying to start flames,
>>  aren't you ? Try being more productive.
>>
>>  Hey, want "Real Computing" ? Try FORTRAN
>>  or COBOL. THOSE were the foundation and
>>  persist to this day. Wrote a FORTRAN app
>>  just a couple of years ago - mostly to vex
>>  the New Guys. Also a short COBOL app, that
>>  oughtta REALLY give 'em the shits !  :-)
>>
> 
> Messages like this give me the vibe of an old distinguished professor 
> writing. These types of messages tend to completely melt the troll in 
> me. ;)

   Well, I *was* the Old Guy ... and noted that those
   moving in to be my replacements knew almost SHIT
   about programming/systems. THEIR 'fix' is to go
   Office-365 Online stuff. That way they don't need
   to KNOW dick except how to pay the bill - and
   nothing is THEIR fault.

   I came in when you could hardly buy ANY software,
   or appropriate hardware for that matter. Spent a
   lot of time with a soldering iron and 8051/PIC/logic
   chips to get the Desired Results. Such fun using
   DDL to expand interrupt-pin functionality. DigiKey
   and Tandy got a LOT of money from me  :-)

   THEN you had to be a jack-of-all-trades, NOW you
   just Charge It to M$ and hope for the best. That's
   what "IT" means now. NOT for the best. Vlad's boyz
   WILL destroy it and the world will STOP.