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On 3/11/25 2:27 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-03-11, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/03/2025 21:02, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:10:41 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/03/2025 05:09, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09 Mar 2025 21:56:33 -0400, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The original Tom Swift books date to before Curtiss, so that Tom
>>>>>> Swift's airplane (or was it still aeroplane?) used wing warping.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably. My brother went to college to become an AE when he got back
>>>>> from WWII and always said 'aeroplane'. I suppose it was consistent as
>>>>> he spent his career in the aerospace industry.
>>>>
>>>> Aeroplane was the original spelling
>>>>
>>>> Americans couldn't cope with the diphthong though.
>>>
>>> Unless Brits say the word very strangely, which is entirely possible, the
>>> AE has neither the long e (algae) or long i (alumnae) value.  'Air' and
>>> 'Aer' are pronounced the same.
>>
>> By Americns.
>>
>>> The question is it really needs to be
>>> turned into a three syllable word with the addition of 'o'.
>>>
>> No, the question is why Americans who are soi find of inventing
>> polysyllabic words like 'burglarize' or 'copacetic;' couldn't cope with
>> three syllables.
> 
> "'Orientate' is an example of the trend toward polysyllabificationizing."
> 
>> Its probably because they didn't invent the word.
> 
> Ah, the NIH syndrome.
> 
>> Aeroplane: late 19th century: from French aéroplane, from aéro- ‘air’ +
>> Greek -planos ‘wandering’.
> 
> I've alwaqys thought of "plane" in the sense of a boat planing,
> although I've heard there are differences.


   Well, a wing is KINDA like a "plane" - and looks like
   one from a little distance. Guess you could make 'em
   out of wide unoptimized lumber bits - just not very
   efficient ... more drag than 'lift'.

   Not 100% sure how 'plane' came to be applied to boats -
   but hydroplanes DO mostly "fly" above the water. High
   powered boats are even newer tech than aircraft, so I
   can see how the aircraft term could have been borrowed.

   REALLY not sure if the "wandering" bit came into the
   names. Perhaps some more colloquial use of "plane",
   which is a wood-working tool that glides over the
   surface.