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Le 10/12/2024 à 20:01, Richard Hachel  a écrit :
> Le 10/12/2024 à 19:04, Python a écrit :
> 
>> How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks standing next to 
>> each other? Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no gravity involved?
> 
> There are things that can be solved with simple common sense, and others that 
> require minimal Cartesian thinking.
> First a priori: the earth is flat, because it is MANIFEST that there is water in 
> the seas. If it were round, the water would fall on the sides, and there was no 
> water in the seas when God created the sky and the earth. Now, QED, there is water 
> in the seas, THEREFORE the earth is flat.
> Second a priori (Ole Römer): "the speed of light is a limiting speed because 
> when we approach Jupiter we observe moons that rotate faster and faster, and the 
> opposite when we move away from it (which is true so far), THEREFORE (and here 
> comes a huge bias) the speed of light is a limiting speed, and Mr. Hachel, as the 
> Nostradamic prophecies specify, should not be believed when he contradicts me". 
> Now, we must introduce here Descartes' methodical doubt. There is certainly a 
> longitudinal Doppler effect, you would have to be really stupid not to notice it. 
> But one can doubt its origin: "Is it a classic Doppler effect, photons being small 
> things that go at a certain speed from here to there crossing a rigid and absolute 
> hyperplane of "present time"? which is the universal belief, or on the contrary 
> "small instantaneous transfers of energy in the hyperplane specific to the 
> receiver?". Who is lying? Who is telling the truth?
> Römer or Hachel?
> As for the equality t'=t, that does not mean much.
> However, one should not doubt for long the fact that two clocks placed in the 
> same place and stationary between them mark the same time, and have the same 
> chronotropy, because apart from the fact that the watchmaker did his job badly, it 
> is difficult to see why one watch would differ from the other and why.
> It is also not necessary to doubt that two watches far apart
> but placed in the same inertial frame of reference will have different 
> chronotropies.
> By on the other hand, one can doubt, without given proof, that two watches 
> placed in different places of the same stationary system RECIPROCALLY mark the 
> same time for the same event, and one can also doubt that two watches even close 
> to each other, beat at the same speed if they evolve in significant relativistic 
> displacement.
> 
> R.H. 

Irrelevant, and idiotic, bunch of nonsense.