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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: West Virginia creationism Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 21:31:33 -0700 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 30 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <zcydnVZrMY074rH7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> References: <gdop0jt4mvqljioufv7stmefniid401svh@4ax.com> <CvnRN.140988$6ePe.119511@fx42.iad> <rcpd1jtljvngh3g3s7455lun0ukjlrqoeb@4ax.com> <2VYRN.256204$hN14.193303@fx17.iad> <4fch1jpp5qtolug4bj158sl9tvn8h7htp9@4ax.com> <ZudSN.257840$hN14.25285@fx17.iad> <folk1jhbg7o63c0spnibf1j72jeb6tcllc@4ax.com> <RUISN.631461$Ama9.561968@fx12.iad> <lafv1jp2fv47for3jusorqcmncfk1d9142@4ax.com> <IA3UN.953$9pR2.722@fx13.iad> <dsbc2jhon7ontdokugvdfg6tedrqnkntq4@4ax.com> <%AzVN.19359$8tL7.11884@fx09.iad> <n7jd2j1lamelgiq69tvlih4mh708alb8d7@4ax.com> <FtDWN.112651$moa7.28881@fx18.iad> <v0gdmp$3o3qj$1@dont-email.me> <bcYWN.317$Fmd1.77@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="75336"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Return-Path: <poster@giganews.com> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id E2B8822976C; Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:31:42 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA30B229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:31:40 -0400 (EDT) id D09977D11E; Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5127D009 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:32:05 +0000 (UTC) by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFC4607F0 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:31:07 +0000 (UTC) by serv-1.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B2444069B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:31:34 -0500 (CDT) by serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 43R4VYMB039566; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:31:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:31:34 +0000 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <bcYWN.317$Fmd1.77@fx13.iad> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4734 On 4/26/24 6:06 PM, Ron Dean wrote: > Ernest Major wrote: >> On 26/04/2024 02:31, Ron Dean wrote: >>> I think due to gradual increasing genetic errors and increase rate of >>> deleterious mutations each generation becomes less fit than the >>> preceding generation, so in the passing spans of time the genes of a >>> species become less and less incapable of reproduction or species >>> survival. This could account for many of 99%+ of of all species that >>> ever lived that have gone extinct. Of course the dinosaurs became >>> extinct due to a 6 mile diameter meteor striking the Earth. Also >>> changing weather the coming and going of ice ages; as well massive >>> volcano eruptions accounts for extinction of many species for >>> example in Siberia. >> >> Are you taking a progressive creationist position, in which your >> Intelligent Designer is continuously creating species de novo? Or are >> you claiming that the current 10 million (+/- a lot) species biota is >> the remnant of a much richer biota of a billion species? >> >> For your information, the conclusion drawn from the fossil record is >> that (for multicellular eukaryotes at least) species diversity has >> been generally increasing over time (though with big setbacks at times >> of mass extinction). >> > This thread is going nowhere and I've some pressing issues I have to > deal with. So, hopefully I'll be back soon. > Ernest had just made an attempt, above, to get the thread going somewhere, and your response is to bail? This says something about you, and it's not good.