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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <zsTKlCIaJEJHMXsvtWB5Tgxb-nI@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?Q?Who=3F?= References: <CBAARt4EEHThxO17L5beYQ9mMWI@jntp> <vadbad$1gllh$1@dont-email.me> <0sAbsqFI52cGATcKfyoKTJ3cyYo@jntp> <vaf5kr$1s50h$1@dont-email.me> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: UxIs5LQlRntDjyOb0hqFg7WxSDk JNTP-ThreadID: QrZBnCtdo05l509rjTwRa5SEcck JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=zsTKlCIaJEJHMXsvtWB5Tgxb-nI@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Sun, 25 Aug 24 12:34:44 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/127.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-08-25T12:34:44Z/8999843"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> Bytes: 2967 Lines: 37 Le 25/08/2024 à 13:47, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit : > Den 24.08.2024 22:14, skrev Richard Hachel: > > You do understand that you can't make the lunar clock > change its reading by looking at it, don't you? > Or don't you? Of course, I can't change lunar time by looking at it. If the watch is red, and round, and shows 00:00'07" at the moment I look at it, well, it's a truism that the watch is red, and round, and shows 00:00'07" at the moment I look at it, and that's what's over there. That's not what I'm talking about, obviously. What I'm saying is that I, right now, have a watch that is out of sync and shows 00:00'08" The question is: why don't the two watches show the same time anymore? Two possible explanations, not just one. Römer's, Hachel's. Both explain in their own way why the two watches are out of sync. It goes without saying that Hachel's explanation far surpasses Römer's and leads to the most beautiful theory of relativity ever revealed. Römer's explanation leads to nothing at all. The beautiful thing is to say that "photons move at c". The genius is to say that transactions are instantaneous, and that it is men's ignorance of the correct space-time that creates this luminic illusion. With Hachel, the watches are truly mutually out of sync although they work very well, and with the same internal chronotropy. In fact, it is not the watches, which are desynchronized, but the "spatial places". It is really 00:00'07" over there, at the very moment when it is 00:00'08" here. And vice versa. This is universal anisochrony. R.H.