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X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:1770:b0:649:6ad2:47d with SMTP id et16-20020a056214177000b006496ad2047dmr40893qvb.1.1692284706545; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a63:7748:0:b0:542:c9ed:b with SMTP id s69-20020a637748000000b00542c9ed000bmr979598pgc.7.1692284705937; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: fr.sci.physique Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <o2058WFC1kAqljE4toOA6QgxR9I@jntp> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2001:861:8bb7:5500:c050:8a01:253c:4a86; posting-account=PKzfqAoAAAC4-vQRW_wt6WFB3xnoeWfi NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:861:8bb7:5500:c050:8a01:253c:4a86 References: <o2058WFC1kAqljE4toOA6QgxR9I@jntp> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <8d2c3c73-2783-4659-9873-48b4c3d92625n@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Transformations relativistes circulaires From: Richard Verret <rverret97@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 15:05:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2178 Bytes: 2411 Lines: 14 Le 17/08/2023 =C3=A0 13:44, Yanick Toutain a =C3=A9crit : > 1=C2=B0 Per=C3=A7u signifie "qui a envoy=C3=A9 un signal" > 2=C2=B0 donc TOUT est perceptible > parce que TOUS LES CORPS DE L'UNIVERS =C3=A9mettent des signaux. C=E2=80=99est vrai, mais tous ne sont pas per=C3=A7us. Ma position est cell= e du r=C3=A9alisme =C2=ABle r=C3=A9alisme scientifique du XXe si=C3=A8cle, = revendiqu=C3=A9 par le cercle de Vienne, affirme la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 du mo= nde et la possibilit=C3=A9 de le repr=C3=A9senter fid=C3=A8lement par le la= ngage.=C2=BB https://www.philomag.com/lexique/realisme=20 Ce n=E2=80=99est pas pour autant que cette r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 est per=C3=A7u= e. Certes, elle nous appara=C3=AEt mais ce n=E2=80=99est qu=E2=80=99un ape= r=C3=A7u et non pas la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 elle-m=C3=AAme. C=E2=80=99est une = sorte d=E2=80=99image, un peu la m=C3=AAme diff=C3=A9rence entre une photo = et l=E2=80=99objet lui-m=C3=AAme, la diff=C3=A9rence entre la carte et le t= erritoire.