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X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:470e:b0:77f:348f:c6d2 with SMTP id bs14-20020a05620a470e00b0077f348fc6d2mr132328qkb.4.1702752668797; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:f84:b0:5d4:27ab:83c with SMTP id df4-20020a05690c0f8400b005d427ab083cmr956936ywb.1.1702752668432; Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) Path: ...!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: fr.sci.physique Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <qhUzn_kcBLSoKdXsAjzVVuc54DY@jntp> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a01:e0a:170:e3f0:424:baaa:6554:b31a; posting-account=PKzfqAoAAAC4-vQRW_wt6WFB3xnoeWfi NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a01:e0a:170:e3f0:424:baaa:6554:b31a References: <qhUzn_kcBLSoKdXsAjzVVuc54DY@jntp> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <922c8043-e473-4990-8227-dd48cddc36dfn@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bourde relativiste universelle From: Richard Verret <rverret97@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:51:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2143 Bytes: 2376 Lines: 14 Le 16/12/2023 =C3=A0 00:11, Richard Hachel a =C3=A9crit : > De m=C3=AAme que l'addition longitudinale des vitesses [u]newtoniennes[/= u] (w=3Du+v) n'est qu'une particularit=C3=A9 de l'addition g=C3=A9n=C3=A9r= ale des vitesses relativistes > de m=C3=AAme, croire que la vraie (la g=C3=A9n=C3=A9n=C3=A9rale est Tr= =3DTo/sqrt(1-Vo=C2=B2/c=C2=B2) et qu'on peut r=C3=A9sumer =C3=A0 =C3=A7a, c= 'est faux. > Parce que Tr=3DTo/sqrt(1-Vo=C2=B2/c=C2=B2), comme l'a remarqu=C3=A9 Ric= hard Verret. Si tu voulais dire Vr=3DVo/sqrt(1-Vo=C2=B2/c=C2=B2) alors je suis d=E2=80= =99accord, par contre To provient de l=E2=80=99=C3=A9galit=C3=A9 L =3D VoTo= =3D Vr Tr, comme Vo est une vitesse illusoire, To l=E2=80=99est =C3=A9gale= ment, seules existent les grandeurs r=C3=A9elles. Vo est la valeur mesur=C3= =A9e par un observateur, on doit donc la rattacher =C3=A0 la r=C3=A9alit=C3= =A9, par contre on ne mesure pas To, on doit donc l=E2=80=99=C3=A9liminer.