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X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:2ccb:b0:773:a3c1:3216 with SMTP id tc11-20020a05620a2ccb00b00773a3c13216mr235237qkn.0.1698262452868; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:51d2:0:b0:6c2:10e1:9d6f with SMTP id d18-20020a9d51d2000000b006c210e19d6fmr4149032oth.6.1698262452664; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Path: ...!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: fr.sci.physique Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <Ye2rsj-rY5SdQX6dLszz5Cdnc8k@jntp> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2001:861:8bb7:5500:84d3:11a3:6604:582; posting-account=PKzfqAoAAAC4-vQRW_wt6WFB3xnoeWfi NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:861:8bb7:5500:84d3:11a3:6604:582 References: <Ye2rsj-rY5SdQX6dLszz5Cdnc8k@jntp> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9a9657ca-923c-4dfb-ad1a-eda2c9ebc206n@googlegroups.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BRR=5D_Comprendre_la_th=C3=A9orie_de_la_relativit=C3=A9?= From: Richard Verret <rverret97@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 19:34:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bytes: 1976 Lines: 10 Le 25/10/2023 =C3=A0 20:32, Julien Arlandis a =C3=A9crit : > Merci de ne pas d=C3=A9former ma position qui est celle de l'=C3=A9cole d= e Copenhague pour laquelle rien n'a de sens en-dehors des observables, ou s= i tu pr=C3=A9f=C3=A8res r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 =3D observables. C=E2=80=99est une fa=C3=A7on de voir. C=E2=80=99est justement ce que je d= =C3=A9nonce; ce que l=E2=80=99on observe n=E2=80=99est pas la r=C3=A9alit= =C3=A9, c=E2=80=99est seulement la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 perceptible (observabl= e). Dans =C3=80 la recherche du r=C3=A9el, Bernard d=E2=80=99Espagnat pose la q= uestion: qu=E2=80=99est-ce que la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 ? https://www.babelio.com/livres/Espagnat--la-recherche-du-reel/1305501