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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Gourbi <gourbi@freenet.de> Newsgroups: fr.lettres.langue.anglaise Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3a_Made_on_Merseyside=c2=a0=3f?= Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 15:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: <sqhpll$8eh$1@solani.org> References: <sqhe8f$148$1@solani.org> <sqhnm8$19sn$1@gioia.aioe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:00:22 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="8657"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:RtwtQ6koagNXfgS67xRsD09CN/o= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: <sqhnm8$19sn$1@gioia.aioe.org> X-User-ID: eJwNysEBwCAIA8CVRAjBcQrC/iPYex/UxYvmcMNgjNRaIg0e9L4pkTshERp17H77j0EdT5vmegOXEFE= Bytes: 2636 Lines: 33 Am 29.12.2021 um 14:26 schrieb joye: > On 12/29/2021 4:45 AM, Gourbi wrote: > > >> À propos du documentaire « The Beatles: Made on Merseyside » – ici, la >> bande-annonce sur BBC Four https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p074jc9v >> –, pourquoi est-ce « Made _on_ Merseyside » et non pas « Made _in_ >> Merseyside » ? > > https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Merseyside > > § > > To express location within the Merseyside area by the preposition on – > thus "on Merseyside" as opposed to "in Merseyside" – was traditionally > the more usual. However, the logic of suggestions in support of this > from some quarters (that, after all, one would always be "on" the side > of the Mersey, not "in" it) falls down; since it is, in fact, entirely > possible to be situated [both] "in" or "on" [either] “side” of the River > Mersey and area(s) thus designated. Therefore, more recent usage tends > to draw distinctions between the geographical "Merseyside" – for which > "on" is considered appropriate – and the Metropolitan county of > "Merseyside", for which "in" is used. > > § Merci. À l'époque, l'habitude était de dire « on Merseyside » vu que le comté du même nom est apparu seulement en 1974 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseyside), donc bien après la fin des Beatles. J'aurais dû être plus attentif. Aujourd'hui cela dépend finalement du point de vue de la personne qui parle : se voit-elle sur le bord de la rivière Mersey ou dans le comté de Mersey ? Entendu.