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Subject: Re: Why the Pledge shouldn't be said in our schoolsoranywherepublic
From: Kavya Patel <digitalmarketing12102016@gmail.com>
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On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 3:08:21 PM UTC+5:30, kavy Patel wrote:
> On Friday, April 11, 2003 at 7:41:52 PM UTC+5:30, jal...@cox.net wrote:=
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> > "Founding Father" <f...@qwest.net> wrote:=20
> > >:|=20
> > >:|<jal...@cox.net> wrote in message=20
> > >:|news:02m88v0nu92ohhd5m...@4ax.com...=20
> > >:|=20
> > >:|This is one of the most moronic arguments I have heard. Must be an N=
EA=20
> > >:|officer.=20
> > Disprove it dippy. LOL=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> A New Look At Vouchers.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> (Permission of author to use this has been given)=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> Newsgroups: alt.atheism=20
> > >:|> Subject: A new look at vouchers=20
> > >:|> From: ai...@unity.ncsu.edu (Wayne Aiken)=20
> > >:|> Date: 1 Aug 1995 19:13:36 GMT=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> This occurred to me the other day, while listening to a talk-show =
debate=20
> > >:|> on school vouchers.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> Some people want a "rebate" on the money they give to the state to=
 educate=20
> > >:|> their children, in order to spend that money in religious schools =
of their=20
> > >:|> choice. Fine, although that they get might not be what they expect=
..=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> The problem is, the money that a person pays into the system for s=
chools,=20
> > >:|> via property taxes, sales tax, etc. is *NOT* for the education of =
their=20
> > >:|> own children, but for public education as a whole**. Many of the a=
rguments=20
> > >:|> I've heard that support this is that public education is supposed =
to be=20
> > >:|> good for the community as a whole, hence everybody pays. I have no=
=20
> > >:|children=20
> > >:|> in the school system, yet I must pay to educate other people's chi=
ldren.=20
> > >:|> Other people, with children or not, do the same. The illusion inhe=
rent in=20
> > >:|> the system is that the money taken from them is taken for "their"=
=20
> > >:|children-=20
> > >:|> it is not.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> If there is to be any "rebate", then the amount given back is *not=
* the=20
> > >:|> total amount contributed, but the percentage portion represented b=
y their=20
> > >:|> children versus the entire system. If a person pays $5000 into a s=
chool=20
> > >:|> system with 1000 children, then the total amount of *their* money =
paying=20
> > >:|> for *their* children is $5 per child. That is all they should expe=
ct=20
> > >:|> back for removing their children from the public school system; th=
e rest=20
> > >:|> is the "common good" payment. Any more than that, received either=
=20
> > >:|> through tax credits or voucher payments, means that they have unfa=
irly=20
> > >:|> shifted the "common good" burden to other people.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> If instead, you look at it from the point of the "total" amount of=
 money=20
> > >:|> for each child following that child, then you have still have the =
problem=20
> > >:|> that the vast majority of that total is from *other people*, who c=
annot=20
> > >:|> legally be forced to contribute to sectarian institutions against =
their=20
> > >:|> will. Despite claims of "choice", it is *still not a free-market s=
ystem*=20
> > >:|> as long as the people paying are not the people directly benefitti=
ng, and=20
> > >:|> I find it perverse that many otherwise capitalistic-free-market-pr=
eaching=20
> > >:|> conservatives have no problem with such a special welfare system, =
as long=20
> > >:|> as its to *their* advantage.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> Any voucher system, no matter how you cut it, is still almost enti=
rely=20
> > >:|> *other people's money", and will remain a separation violation, as=
 long=20
> > >:|> as the socialistic elements remain in the system.=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|> [**] Whether people should be forced to contribute money for colle=
ctivist=20
> > >:|> social institutions or not is a separate issue altogether. As long=
 as=20
> > >:|> the system exists, for better or worse, everyone has to be treated=
=20
> > >:|equally.=20
> > >:|> --------------------------------------=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|>=20
> > >:|
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