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Path: ...!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joye <joye@nospam.com> Newsgroups: fr.lettres.langue.francaise Subject: Re: Le marquis de Carabas Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 06:35:40 -0500 Organization: BWH Usenet (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <ufm72b$19le$2@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <ufe04u$s0bp$1@news.usenet.ovh> <ufjiv8$2ifo$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net> <ufjr9m$97m$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <ZDy7rnzjyNAcN0SsOg8zJeEv3QA@jntp> <ufk172$1qsd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <zNg6ko3O6pc9U2cUzPs26h57UxQ@jntp> <ufk6vv$ogo$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <tC1CYIAz5hKMQ51c4N8xHFiz78Y@jntp> <ufkgcu$6vd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <ufkjp0$1ai$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net> <1gsRor2T-2tyx2zwOWPEbnQmID4@jntp> <ufkl9f$1lm$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:35:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="42670"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fpVsuIpw+7mJo5RdtzsT1Sm06cU= sha256:Ly0s798ib4mQqJQVmw5TEiIPKH+gMkmvxvd5WdoR3a0= sha1:QSgY8OjqbcYn4k9ZCntYE2TvfUY= sha256:egvRTqRwjrnZMP4lcj9HanIdPD5Lbhq3kZciPLmSxKo= In-Reply-To: <ufkl9f$1lm$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2177 Lines: 19 On 10/4/2023 4:26 PM, Olivier Miakinen wrote: > Noter que les deux prononciations commencent par /pe/ Tu sais, bien sûr, que le /p/ initial en anglais n'est pas comme le /p/ initial en français ? https://www.americanenglishsounds.net/p-peace-price.html Voici une prononciation authentique du mot "Beijing" par un vrai Chinois. Attention aux âmes sensibles : dans la vidéo, le Chinois critique la prononciation française du mot. https://youtu.be/_GE4dkpOdPw?si=B2NMPquWkxydYl42 Le son initial est clairement un /b/.