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<jecorbett19580@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:01f404d0-241d-4b86-81c4-7ea7a50716fbn@googlegroups.com...
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:36:16 AM UTC-4, Klaus  Schadenfreude 
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 06:44:12 -0700 (PDT), "jecorbe...@yahoo.com"
>> <jecorbe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:28:30 PM UTC-4, Baxter wrote:
>> >> Just Wondering <J...@jw.com> wrote in
>> >> news:u43rK.101301$ntj....@fx15.iad:
>> >> > On 6/14/2022 8:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> >> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> 
>> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> in news:jc2iahlvnhopfglfu...@4ax.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 22:10:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> >> >>> <bax02_s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote
>> >> >> in
>> >> >>>> news:ucmeahhntp4g871s4...@4ax.com:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:30:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> >> >>>>> <bax02_s...@baxcode.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> https://image.politicalcartoons.com/263916/600/guns-dont-kill-
>> >> >>>> people.png
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Of COURSE guns kill people, Baxter!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-woman-70-shoots-kills-home-
>> >> >> intruder
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> A 70-year-old Florida woman shot and killed a suspected home
>> >> >>>>> intruder who allegedly wouldn’t leave the residence even after
>> >> >>>>> the woman fired off a warning shot.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> "I didn’t know what he was going to do, but I knew I was going
>> >> >>>>> to protect myself. I’m a fighter. I’m going to defend myself,"
>> >> >>>>> Virginia Morrison told FOX 35 News.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> The stranger, later identified as Ezequiel Rosario-Torres, 38,
>> >> >>>>> reportedly walked into Morrison’s Orange County home Sunday
>> >> >> afternoon.
>> >> >>>>> Morrison said she tried to get him out of the house by hitting 
>> >> >>>>> him
>> >> >>>>> with a broom, but Rosario-Torres reportedly swatted the broom
>> >> >>>>> away.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Rosario-Torres was transported to a local hospital where he 
>> >> >>>>> died.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> THAT is what guns are for, Baxter.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> So she murdered an unarmed man?!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Nope. Didn't you read the article?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nothing in the article about him being armed.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Nothing in the article about him being murdered.
>> >> >
>> >> When you kill an unarmed person with your gun, what else could it be?
>> >
>> >An unarmed person is capable of causing death or great bodily harm. I 
>> >such a situation it
>> >is perfectly legal to resort to deadly force to defend yourself. When 
>> >someone makes a
>> >forced entry into your home, it is reasonable to assume they intend to 
>> >cause you great
>> >bodily harm and Castle Doctrine relieves a person of a duty to retreat, 
>> >even in states which
>> >don't have Stand Your Ground laws.
>> Baxter feels there's nothing wrong with a man inside an elderly
>> person's home.
>>
>> Seriously.
>>
>> He's that fucked up.
>
> The key to the justified use of deadly force is whether it is reasonable 
> for a person to believe
> they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. You don't have to wait 
> for your attacker to
> actually harm you before resorting to deadly force.  If you do, it might 
> be too late. It also
> isn't necessary for your attacker to be armed for the threat of death or 
> great bodily harm to
> exist. An unauthorized man in the home of an elderly woman who refuses to 
> leave even after
> being swatted with a broom and after warning shots have been fired clearly 
> poses a threat
> to that woman. This is a no brainer case of justifiable homicide.
>
> Jonesy will probably tell us it was a drug deal gone bad.

Na, he got his lead... overdosed on it even.