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From: aw@somewhere.invalid (Adam W.)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 23:48:32 -0000 (UTC)
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In news.admin.peering Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com> wrote:

> I think most admins are using custom scripts to produce nocem messages. 
> I know that I am. It's just necessary to produce a properly formatted 
> and signed post, so not too complicated. I produce mine (i2pn2.org) with 
> a php script, then post it with a bash script.

I just revisited this thread, so pardon me for resurrecting it after two 
weeks.

It's the same in my case. A combination of Python, C++ and Bash code 
filters articles and generates NoCeMs on my server (news.chmurka.net).

There's a standarized and ready-made way to process incoming NoCeMs, but 
I don't know of any ready-made way to generate them (which doesn't mean 
that it doesn't exist).

When adding custom filters to the server, one usually has to write some 
code anyway, and NoCeMs, as Retro Guy said, aren't that complicated to 
generate.

Here's a piece I wrote about NoCeMs on my server, if someone's interested.

http://news.chmurka.net/nocem.php

It's true that it's a way to automate spam filtering across servers that 
trust each other, but:

a) technically nothing prevents ordinary users from using NoCeMs in their 
own readers (public keys are public, everyone can verify NoCeMs), I just 
don't think that there are readers that support it (but it can be added 
with some amount of coding)

b) nothing prevents ordinary users from posting NoCeMs, publishing a 
policy, and gaining reputation (leading to their NoCeMs being honored by 
servers), although this mechanism works best if it has a realtime feed of 
articles (so it's best to run it on a newsserver)

Adam