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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Is it a Joke? ? ? Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:36:22 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vapteg$3va7q$3@dont-email.me> References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <vak80b$2u8l5$1@dont-email.me> <5U7no7_ss4o5VC4H35bOoOqEi6w@jntp> <val4pj$332jq$1@dont-email.me> <PV2oATKbq9mjQDVMXlzvbvCPLMU@jntp> <vala23$33mgn$2@dont-email.me> <2hjjdokckxPswv9vzkiMV5N_680@jntp> <vanq5h$3irq8$1@dont-email.me> <KEAdeNaSGPhdUQc32DGS2HcmhqA@jntp> <vaplj0$3upoa$1@dont-email.me> <sFVsteOhJ9tQehdwjFNWQJawodY@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:35:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8d26fcdedb52beba8fe121381af51556"; logging-data="4172026"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+f/CpHtailQ4Jq0UvH7oKp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UerWkSc3SdoPHb7VU8ZTmbAPZR4= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <sFVsteOhJ9tQehdwjFNWQJawodY@jntp> Bytes: 3092 Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel: > > It is obvious that if it moves from left to right, transversely, or from > right to left, the speed of light will be the same. > > Let's say that I have not measured it yet, that I just know that it is > very fast, so I cannot say precisely what it is. > > But AT LEAST, can I suppose that it would be very surprising if it moved > faster in one direction or another. Which would be an absurdity in a > concept of refutation of absolute or privileged referent. > > If I can measure this transverse speed from A to B (i.e. without > possible Doppler effect that could distort my measurement) I will find > Vo=3.10^8m/s. > > And then, it's true, if I practice in the other direction, I will still > find > Vo=3.10^8m/s. > > It is equal in both directions, and it is logical that it should be. > > I will now turn my device AB by 90°, and I will place myself this time, > in a position perpendicular to what I was previously, and again, I will > calculate the transverse speed of light from A to B. > > Bingo! > > From A to B, or from B to A, I will note Vo=3.10^8m/s > > Tears of joy will then slowly flow down my pink cheek: > I have just proven something invariant. > > Except that I am an idiot who has not understood anything at all, and > who has not noticed the enormous bias that I have just described here. > What are you babbling about? It is thoroughly experimentally verified that the speed of light is isotropic, constant and invariant. The number c = 299792458 m/s follows from the definition of the units. Only an ignorant moron would claim: "the speed of light depends on the position of the observer." -- Paul https://paulba.no/