Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: "Trip report: June 2025 ISO C++ standards meeting (Sofia, Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:56:41 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 72 Message-ID: <75aa9736835a5edd51fb11b03d2eea7f54abbab8.camel@gmail.com> References: <103a7kk$qri0$2@dont-email.me> <103gd2r$2lqoe$1@dont-email.me> <20250625164839.000004b5@yahoo.com> <103h2sf$2rb11$1@dont-email.me> <103h604$2s3vq$1@dont-email.me> <103hh5j$2ui1d$1@dont-email.me> <103ivnj$3btbj$1@dont-email.me> <103jimj$3g1be$1@dont-email.me> <103m2bi$57rm$1@dont-email.me> <103p27d$u96j$1@dont-email.me> <85b4b6a000e4cea90ca07dd75bd01b63715b9040.camel@gmail.com> <103qqp5$1dsnm$1@dont-email.me> <385ad5a614ee2a03d0574141bac6d95a06958357.camel@gmail.com> <103ro7j$2vlg$1@dont-email.me> <9db80a007484f0a7b4fb4e606fcef85a490dcac1.camel@gmail.com> <103temu$225jq$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 15:56:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0eb7e12b3e8b38dd56e8c036953e23ba"; logging-data="2264508"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/qVPuWpXY616dOSfm5X5jH" User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.2 (3.56.2-1.fc42) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xl/RfucHZ6MWLgBpAsytDvrga7E= In-Reply-To: <103temu$225jq$1@dont-email.me> On Mon, 2025-06-30 at 07:34 +0000, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 01:59:58 +0800 > wij wibbled: > > On Sun, 2025-06-29 at 16:05 +0000, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com=C2=A0wrote: > > > something you're apparently completely unaware of. The same applies t= o=3D > > =3D20 > > > graphics. Now why don't you go find a time machine, come forward 40 y= ears=3D > > to > > > 2025 then get yourself a clue. > >=20 > > I can write a speech synthesizer 'utter', like bellow, to say "Hellow, = worl=3D > > d". > > (Honest, this one would take time for now) > >=20 > > int main() { > > utter << "Hellow, world"; > > }; >=20 > So "I could write a library to do speech synthesis" becomes "it should be > built into the language". Right, ok. How would the setup work then, give = some > examples? It looks? I saved too many typing of keyboard. > > I can write a program like below that paint an image and draw a cross. > > Most importantly, no graphics library is compiled and needed in the sou= rce=3D > > =3DC2=3DA0 > > (all source is pretty much what the several lines shown). > >=20 > > int main() { > > Image imgfile(..); > > Display disp(..); >=20 > Oh right, the magic "...", lets not worry about the details yeah? So will= your=20 > version of the compiler come with Xlib built in then? Or maybe Wayland AP= I?=20 > Do let us know. Also how will your "..." cope with all the different para= meters > required for different OS's but yet keep the code portable? > > disp << imgfile; > > disp << "line(100,200,200,300),line(100,300,200,100),.."; >=20 > A string? Are you sure you actually know any C++? >=20 > > What you can do? just mouth -> Oh, not in OS1, OS2,...OS100. Or C/C++,P= ytho=3D > > n,C#, > > Java,Go,Dust,... have no such thing, non-standard ABC,... Or that need = OS/ > > hardware/BIOS... support,..too complicated... (pretending very knowledg= eabl=3D >=20 > Dust? >=20 > Re Java , you do realise its an abstracted language and the JVM does all > the interfacing with the OS?=20 >=20 > > e).=3D20 > > Finally, 'we' don't need graphics/sound library in C++ !!! >=20 > You said built into the language, not a library. I read the post twice to figure out your post is loser's trolling. Those who know C++ programming should already get the idea. I am not wasting my time with idiot. Go home and learn more.