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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 22:28:40 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: World of Warcraft used to be under 50 GB install Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 18:28:22 -0400 Summary: Copying or reuse for AI training or data sets not allowed Message-ID: <jsae5khgobujqd2o7jl7jvn61leeqmub2q@4ax.com> References: <mbnugoFkmbjU1@mid.individual.net> <0osd5ktsu9ajueq43e1csv5rk2oa4upuvr@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 83 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-k1Biph7LBOUKKau0lajS5E14v2ZOWYXUY1fCCJulnr6ibho/mEu8XUCPhttzkPkjRcaCi0jsKsKh4OV!emTFWP7b/oYJ2KppQVXNodBs9m/pESRLXxiqauL1+znQoxySlyfFhcuMhVD0weIT7ZAuqOSW X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:05:05 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >say: > >>It's currently 150+. Why don't they just make it a terabyte and no one >>can fit it on their comp? > >You _don't_ have a multi-terabyte drive? > >What, you think it's 2010 or something? > > >Current System: 2TB SSD + 16TB of Spinning Rust > >Hell I even have a 1TB USB Stick. > >Xocyll In fairness, a lot of laptops (and even some computers) are /still/ shipping with hard-drives* less than 1TB, and I'm always surprised at how many people use ordinary laptops --not even overpriced gaming laptops, but just regular 'designed mostly for office work' laptops-- as their primary gaming platform. Space for games on these machines is at a premium, and dedicating 100+GB to a single title can be /very/ annoying. Worse, expansion of those platforms can be difficult.** Sure, you can use external drives but those are usually slower, and then you got a dangly bit hanging off the side. Not something you want in a laptop, usually. Even some desktops ship with less than a terabyte, and while expansion is usually easier there its still extra cost and complexity. The complaint isn't entirely unjustified. That said, given the age and size of the "World of Warcraft" world (a game which has seen ten major expansions), it's not unexpected result either. It's A LOT of data and it has to be stored somewhere. Worse in my opinion is a game like "Metro Exodus" (80GB) or "Mechwarrior 5 Clans" (95GB), whose gameworlds are miniscule compared to World of Warcraft but demand nearly the same amount of storage space. But that's just the state of things these days. We demand huge vistas with high-fidelity sound and visuals, and that requires a lot of data. While its fun --and not entirely inaccurate-- to bitch about how developers aren't optimizing their games anymore, there's still a limit to how small a footprint you can squeeze a game into. There /are/ games with smaller storage requirements, but they come at a cost to the game's visuals or scale. TL;DR: Yes, games use a lot of disk-space but that's a result of the size and scope of their worlds and I'm not really upset at these requirements. Bitch at your OEM for not providing you with enough storage space instead. ;-) Side note: my entire DOS-Games collection -literally thousands of games- comes in at just about 4 "World of Warcrafts" * whether solid-state or spinning rust, they're all hard-disk drives to me ;-) ** The asshole who said, "hey, let's solder the storage directly onto the motherboard" needs to be tarred and feathered